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Uber has a law firm investigating me – Susan Fowler

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Re: Uber has a law firm investigating me – Susan Fowler

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Post by dang »

rfdub wrote: post #43

Because she's a woman and women never lie and only ever tell the truth and couldn't possibly have anything to gain by martyring themselves and having the media heap praise and attention upon them. It may not be reflected in societies laws, but for women at least the burden of proof has shifted to the accused. Anyone accused of anything by a woman is now immediately guilty and regardless of what facts they may present…

Please don't post flamewar comments on HN. If you have a substantive point, make it thoughtfully; if you don't, please don't post here.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13776316 and marked it off-topic.

Re: Uber has a law firm investigating me – Susan Fowler

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Post by chaser7016 »

mattieuga wrote: post #107
chaser7016 wrote: post #42

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Why does a user have to email a company to delete their account? How is that consumer friendly, especially after Uber lets your account get hacked/1k stolen! This happened to me (I never used Uber.. signed up and forgot about it) and in my research I found out they know about the hacks and their PR message is its the user's fault for using a lame password. What a horrible company.. run by the worst vile, corrupt, arr…

To be fair here, having to send an email to delete your account is true of the vast majority of companies.

It is? Who else does this so I can avoid them!

It's an internet service .. I don't need to send an email to Facebook, twitter, etc to have my account canceled. Uber should be no different unless there's a pending charge then tell the user you can cancel after payment has cleared ...not wait until we feel like emailing you to handle your request because WE WANT TO LOCK YOU IN! I was and am still furious that I was unable to cancel my phantom Uber account immediately after my bank account got hacked.

Any web service following this scheme is not doing it for their users but for themselves!!!

Re: Uber has a law firm investigating me – Susan Fowler

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Post by employee8000 »

WalterSear wrote: post #101
alphonsegaston wrote: post #79

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...but she says this is happening, so where's the revolt? I'm not sure how you can support Susan but than pick and choose what to believe about her experience, then and now with Uber. That's not support.

It appears there is already a revolt going on, fwiw. https://twitter.com/physicsNcoffee/status/834566962998960128

That number was a lie btw.

Re: Uber has a law firm investigating me – Susan Fowler

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Post by danso »

arkona wrote: post #99
crispyambulance wrote: post #96

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"Pitchforks" is a bit melodramatic. But basically, nothing which Fowler has said seems suspicious or in any way promoting a malicious agenda. Her blog post was straightforward and referred to events, people and communications which, I expect, can be referenced by the UBER HR department and I hope that she has retained the evidence if she needs it to protect herself. That seems perfectly reasonable.

Yes, let's hope she has retained the evidence and she shows some of it. > nothing which Fowler has said seems suspicious or in any way promoting a malicious agenda. It is suspicious that considering the number of people involved in this alleged systematic abuse, no one has stepped forward to corroborate her claims. The leather jackets story also strikes me as very far-fetched and a little incredible to believe (a com…

> The leather jackets story also strikes me as very far-fetched and a little incredible to believe (a company like Uber wouldn't care about the cost of 6 extra jackets and wouldn't take the PR risk of pulling shit like that).

I don't see why we should assume that the Uber bureaucracy is wise and level-headed in decisions big and small, and that Susan Fowler would risk making up such a stupid and easily disprovable detail after alleging far more serious claims.

Re: Uber has a law firm investigating me – Susan Fowler

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Post by danso »

devy wrote: post #32

First off, I empathize her horrendous experiences of being harassed at Uber and applaud her courage to speak out. Susan runs a book club [1][2] and is a published author[3]. Her quick fame rising from the recent press and a 24k+ follower and the amount of product placements on her tweet feed has reminded that old saying: All Press is Good Press. [1]: https://twitter.com/susansbookclub [2]: http://www.susansbookclub.c…

On what planet do you live on in which fame for running a book club and/or being an author of niche engineering books has profit potential that outweighs the costs of lawsuits and character assassination?

Re: Uber has a law firm investigating me – Susan Fowler

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Post by tonmoy »

xiphias wrote: post #62
tonmoy wrote: post #47

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And people were asking why these women just don't sue. It seems people need to be careful and think twice even when writing a blog post let alone sue.

If you are refering to me, I asked why she doesn't go to a lawyer... I had consulted lawyers many times in my life, but never sued.

No, I wasn't referring to that. I was referring to numerous comments on the original post of Susan Flower's blog on HN

Re: Uber has a law firm investigating me – Susan Fowler

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Post by thiagowfx »

chaser7016 wrote: post #112
mattieuga wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair here, having to send an email to delete your account is true of the vast majority of companies.

It is? Who else does this so I can avoid them! It's an internet service .. I don't need to send an email to Facebook, twitter, etc to have my account canceled. Uber should be no different unless there's a pending charge then tell the user you can cancel after payment has cleared ...not wait until we feel like emailing you to handle your request because WE WANT TO LOCK YOU IN! I was and am still furious that I was una…

Your Facebook account is never deleted. It is only deactivated.

Re: Uber has a law firm investigating me – Susan Fowler

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Post by chaser7016 »

thiagowfx wrote: post #117
chaser7016 wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is? Who else does this so I can avoid them! It's an internet service .. I don't need to send an email to Facebook, twitter, etc to have my account canceled. Uber should be no different unless there's a pending charge then tell the user you can cancel after payment has cleared ...not wait until we feel like emailing you to handle your request because WE WANT TO LOCK YOU IN! I was and am still furious that I was una…

Your Facebook account is never deleted. It is only deactivated.

It's gone off the Internet for the user and everyone.

Why are ppl defending this tactic because you use it at your startup and try to justify it as right when it's SO WRONG and hostile to your users.

Re: Uber has a law firm investigating me – Susan Fowler

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Post by princeb »

ci5er wrote: post #104
princeb wrote: post #58

i thought the harassment story was bad but did everyone miss the totally malfunctioning hr review process and awful culture in susan's story? I just thought that was the hidden part of the iceberg - that there is some kind of crazy lord of the flies thing going on there that is the root of all the harassment and the other bizarre behaviour between teams there. I just don't see it as a very nice place to work unless y…

Same piece, right? Or was there a mini-series?

same piece! i guess everyone was caught up in the sexual harassment story, and the crazy story of her getting her review post hoc revised and transfers/scholarships cancelled became a side story? i found every single part of her story aggravating, the hr process, the backstabbing, the politicking, the sexual harassment, all of it.

Re: Uber has a law firm investigating me – Susan Fowler

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Post by abpavel »

arkona wrote: post #70
abpavel wrote: post #68

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Accusation put forth against Cosby and Trump did not follow your assumptions.

The Cosby case is still ongoing, but what accusations have been put forth against Trump and confirmed (except the "pussy tape")? It would be a huge scandal if the president of the US was found guilty of sexual misconduct.

Here is the list: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/12/all-of-dona...
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