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Lyft Is Said to Seek New Funding as Its Rival Uber Stumbles

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Post by MaxfordAndSons »

lqdc13 wrote: post #412
argonaut wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The New York and Los Angeles metropolitan areas are larger in area than the London metropolitan area The NY metro area is much more populous than London, and the LA metro area is very slightly less populous.

NYC transportation sucks even within areas where the population is very dense. It takes 2 hours to get from Bronx to Coney Island on subway. Plus there are almost daily service disruptions of all kinds. San Francisco's Bart is hated by almost everyone but it is much faster[1]. In fact, I have never taken a slower subway than NYC subway. [1] https://flic.kr/p/7LhwPz

> It takes 2 hours to get from Bronx to Coney Island on subway

That's a bizarre example. Of course it takes a long time to go from one corner of the city to the other. No reasonable person would be making that commute regularly.

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Post by sokoloff »

CalRobert wrote: post #365
rimantas wrote: post #309

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Land Rovers do not drive on sidewalks, for a start.

Bicycles and Land Rovers are both operated on the street. Humans are on the street as well, with varying degrees of protection. I often use the street while mounted on a bicycle. If my skull is crushed by a Land Rover's tire that will be a markedly different experience from my skull being hit by a bicycle tire. Please elaborate; I don't really understand what you mean.

GP's point was that bicycles are fairly often operated on sidewalks. Percentage-wise, way more frequently than cars/trucks are operated on sidewalks.

Re: Lyft Is Said to Seek New Funding as Its Rival Uber Stumbles

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Post by subpixel »

alphonsegaston wrote: post #24

Anybody who's got a small but viable alternative to Uber could really benefit by pivoting to an "ethics first" model right now. Between Kalanick and Thiel, the market seems ripe for disruption.

That's what Juno is trying to do, by giving 50% of equity to drivers: http://observer.com/2016/08/we-tried-juno-the-company-trying...

My wife uses Juno exclusively, several times a week, for this reason. She says the drivers are always eager to explain their choice of driving for Juno.

Re: Lyft Is Said to Seek New Funding as Its Rival Uber Stumbles

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Post by jcl »

randyrand wrote: post #185

Do we have any reason to believe Lyft is actually more moral? And not just putting on a "we're moral" marketing stunt?

I personally was convinced Lyft was more moral when Uber employees did things like booking Lyft rides for the purposes of recruiting away the drivers or making fake Lyft accounts to book and cancel thousands of rides. As far as I can tell, Lyft employed no similar tactics.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/08/11/technology/uber-fake-ride-re...

http://www.businessinsider.com/ubers-operation-slog-against-...

Re: Lyft Is Said to Seek New Funding as Its Rival Uber Stumbles

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Post by inverse_pi »

gm-conspiracy wrote: post #265
smileysteve wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The key points are - CEO never blackmailed journalists - No major revelations of sexual harassment - ~~No major revelations of political support~~ Related to core business - Surge Limit has prevented complaints about emergency pricing vs Uber. - Lyft takes a lower commission capped at 20%/25% - Lyft has in app digital tipping (drivers keep 100% of tips). Uber's tip policy encourages cash, which is an often cited comp…

You forgot human rights abuses. I have encountered Lyft drivers that refuse to work for Uber for such reasons.

Care to elaborate?

Re: Lyft Is Said to Seek New Funding as Its Rival Uber Stumbles

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Post by soperj »

foxfired wrote: post #127

Here is how I see it. I rely on those rides to go to work every single day and here what it (would) costs me. Uber: $250 a month.(Majority) Lyft: $500 a month (Whenever Uber is too expensive) Bus : $100 a month (1h:15 for 6 miles and 3 buses... No) Politics and all internal conflicts aside, there is a need for these services whether we like it or not. When I need to make a decision in the morning I take whatever is t…

Biking 6 miles would probably only take half an hour and would be the cheapest & healthiest option.

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Post by kamaal »

foxfired wrote: post #127

Here is how I see it. I rely on those rides to go to work every single day and here what it (would) costs me. Uber: $250 a month.(Majority) Lyft: $500 a month (Whenever Uber is too expensive) Bus : $100 a month (1h:15 for 6 miles and 3 buses... No) Politics and all internal conflicts aside, there is a need for these services whether we like it or not. When I need to make a decision in the morning I take whatever is t…

>>frustration of driving all around town only for very small profit.

Wasn't this the whole point of Uber.

The very reason why people even use Uber is because of this model. A lot of drivers signed up for this because they didn't need to go through the taxi license process or the medallion business.

Now complaining the same doesn't work because there are too many driver driving sending up the supply and lowering demand is some what wrong here.

What were these drivers thinking. Those regulations existed for a reason.

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Post by patrickyan »

devy wrote: post #407
mtw wrote: post #377

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The solution is reliable public transport. The way i see it, Uber is half price because it is sustained by VC money and ever-decreasing pay for drivers. Taxis or Ubers are in theory your own private vehicle or limo. It should be special occasions. Because you're late to the meeting. Or have to go the airport. Or because you had a drink too much. Having a private vehicle for everyday transport is a luxury and it shoul…

I totally concur with the OP and the solution is NOT public transit. Public transit is designed to maximize the service to cover majority of the population but NOT 100% of the use cases and population due to the limited funding and resources governments are allowed to allocate to public transit. I've been to 20 out of 30 world's mega cities. None that I've seen has a "reliable public transportation" that covers all t…

That's only because America is shitty at implementing public transportation. Tokyo and Seoul are fucking amazing.

NYC subway is actually amazingly convenient despite being run down and disgusting. There's no reason to take an Uber in NYC unless you're drunk late at night, want to feel fancy, or are going to the airport.

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Post by pm90 »

Nadya wrote: post #425
devy wrote: post #407

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I totally concur with the OP and the solution is NOT public transit. Public transit is designed to maximize the service to cover majority of the population but NOT 100% of the use cases and population due to the limited funding and resources governments are allowed to allocate to public transit. I've been to 20 out of 30 world's mega cities. None that I've seen has a "reliable public transportation" that covers all t…

For all of your mega city visits, have you been to Tokyo? If so what did you find unreliable about it? The one criticism I can see is when transport is slowed/halted due to typhoons. I found that the public transportation in most of Japan was well enough, such that I never thought to myself "If only I had a car/rental right now..." Not to mention how punctual the transportation is. Compared to where I live, where del…

How can these trains possibly be profitable with that kind of schedule? In fact I remember reading somewhere that they lose money...

Which made me wonder whether that kind of loss is OK and can be waived off as a govt. benefit in lieu of private car ownership. I don't know how the economics would work out, but it would be interesting to see how they compare.

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Post by dsr_ »

Karunamon wrote: post #435
tzakrajs wrote: post #417

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It's a dog whistle for racists. Please don't apologize for racists.

Your proof that the statement is some kind of coded language is what, exactly? Parent's assertion? Please don't assume racism where none has been proven to exist. I absolutely refuse to cease challenging unsubstantiated statements because of this conceptual boogeyman, and so should you.

You are arguing about whether a non-attributed quote which was explicitly intended to show racism via coded language actually shows racism via coded language.

If this were an attributed quote, you could go look up the source and argue context. It isn't.

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