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Lyft Is Said to Seek New Funding as Its Rival Uber Stumbles

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Re: Lyft Is Said to Seek New Funding as Its Rival Uber Stumbles

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Post by icantdrive55 »

ZainRiz wrote: post #166
Nutomic wrote: post #147

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This can't really be solved by individual consumers. Instead, the government should introduce laws to ensure that drivers make at least minimum wage (after fuel, maintenance, taxes etc). If that is not enough, it might be necessary to raise the minimum wage.

Considering how Uber and Lyft are both loosing money as it is, using government intervention to force them to pay their drivers more will just increase their chances of going out of business and mean there will be no driving jobs at all. In this situation I'd prefer letting the market decide the prices for drivers. They had jobs before Uber, and if Uber starts paying too little then they can try going back to those k…

There's a fair amount of drivers who went out and bought a late model four door Uber approved vechicle; in order to get their side hussle on.

That's the rub. If Uber allowed any car, and let the customer decide if it was worthy--I wouldn't have a problem.

Until Uber supplies the vechicle--I'm all for making them pay minimum wage. I know it seems crazy because we are used to this rediculious Uber model of doing business.

I couldn't imagine applying for a taxi cab job, and this is said, "Oh yea--you need to buy the yellow taxi? Is that a problem dude?"

And I don't buy the Uber presumption that wanna be drivers just happen to have a late model four door vechicle collecting dust in the garage.

Re: Lyft Is Said to Seek New Funding as Its Rival Uber Stumbles

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Post by biztos »

deusex_ wrote: post #160
foxfired wrote: post #127

Here is how I see it. I rely on those rides to go to work every single day and here what it (would) costs me. Uber: $250 a month.(Majority) Lyft: $500 a month (Whenever Uber is too expensive) Bus : $100 a month (1h:15 for 6 miles and 3 buses... No) Politics and all internal conflicts aside, there is a need for these services whether we like it or not. When I need to make a decision in the morning I take whatever is t…

In Europe, your bus fare would be half of the price and probably you would need one or two connections. The public transport is much more developed and to me seems like a much better mass transportation alternative. More ecological, cheaper, less cars overall.

81 EUR in Berlin for the "normal" ticket (zones A+B), 100 EUR for the whole network. Discounted tickets for late sleepers. :-)

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Post by TulliusCicero »

trustfundbaby wrote: post #164
deusex_ wrote: post #160

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In Europe, your bus fare would be half of the price and probably you would need one or two connections. The public transport is much more developed and to me seems like a much better mass transportation alternative. More ecological, cheaper, less cars overall.

It also helps that Europe and its cities are ... smaller.

Yes, but the physical size of American cities was a deliberate choice on our part. We could have had denser cities if we wanted, and we could fix that starting today if we wanted.

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Post by TulliusCicero »

empath75 wrote: post #167
foxfired wrote: post #127

Here is how I see it. I rely on those rides to go to work every single day and here what it (would) costs me. Uber: $250 a month.(Majority) Lyft: $500 a month (Whenever Uber is too expensive) Bus : $100 a month (1h:15 for 6 miles and 3 buses... No) Politics and all internal conflicts aside, there is a need for these services whether we like it or not. When I need to make a decision in the morning I take whatever is t…

Uber pool wasn't meant to be for professional drivers. If he's doing that, he's doing it wrong.

Oh, you sweet summer child. Just because Uber says "ridesharing" doesn't mean it's actually ridesharing.

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Post by rtpg »

semi-extrinsic wrote: post #176
trustfundbaby wrote: post #164

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It also helps that Europe and its cities are ... smaller.

I don't know if you're thinking about area or population, but by either metric London is bigger than any city in the US, and has a much better public transport system.

the right word is "denser". American cities are built for cars, so even if you take a bus somewhere you're now walking 15 minutes between buildings.

This can be solved on a small scale (build "pockets" of livability), but mass transit will have a harder time surviving without other urbanization changes

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Post by pfranz »

MichaelApproved wrote: post #128
lightcatcher wrote: post #124

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I give about 30% of my Lyft drivers a tip, and I'm glad Lyft includes the option in their app. I've occasionally wanted to tip an Uber driver but then not had cash on me. I don't think it's reasonable to expect ride share companies to pay their drivers a fair wage when they are in fierce competition with each other and self-driving cars are on the horizon. I agree "mandatory" tipping like in US restaurants isn't a gr…

> I don't think it's reasonable to expect ride share companies to pay their drivers a fair wage It's always reasonable to expect companies to pay their people a fair wage.

I always liked the quote, “No business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country.”

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Post by legulere »

foxfired wrote: post #127

Here is how I see it. I rely on those rides to go to work every single day and here what it (would) costs me. Uber: $250 a month.(Majority) Lyft: $500 a month (Whenever Uber is too expensive) Bus : $100 a month (1h:15 for 6 miles and 3 buses... No) Politics and all internal conflicts aside, there is a need for these services whether we like it or not. When I need to make a decision in the morning I take whatever is t…

6 Miles is still pretty doable on a bicycle in around half an hour for the months were the weather fits.

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Post by paulddraper »

baddox wrote: post #146
paulddraper wrote: post #121

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> The fact that it's not an effective Muslim ban is a different question. It is precisely the question. What the ban is is much more important that what it purports to be. For example, if it purported to be a ban on terrorists but actually was as ban on Muslims (and I mean, a bonafide ban on all Muslims), would that not matter?

No, that would still be illegal, because a ban on Muslims is illegal. It is illegal to ban Muslims, and it is illegal to intend to ban Muslims. The latter reason is the one provided by the Ninth Circuit.

> Thoughtcrime, they called it.

- George Orwell, 1984

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