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post #196

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The way I understand it, historically geo restrictions originate from physical goods, and are usually driven by distributors, who want to reduce competition and control certain regions. I.e. in order to monopolize the market, they require those who produce some goods to restrict distribution through them only for that region, and in return they offer better pricing and assistance in that distribution. I.e. this basic…

I think it also has something to do with price discrimination. A seller can maximize profit if they can come closest to charging the maximum the buyers are willing to pay. So for goods where the cost to make a copy is negligible, such as media and books, the ideal pricing strategy is to sell the product at different prices to different markets, hence why you see versions of the same textbooks being sold for $10 in As…

This is also problematic in a digital store. Imagine someone from USA coming to Asia to buy a book, and they refuse to sell it, or require to charge more based on the citizenship and so on. It sounds ridiculous, but that's what happens in digital now both with regional pricing, and geoblocking. In short, applying physical geo based logic in the digital space can lead to unethical and ugly results, because of its non physical nature.

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When am I going to be able to choose my channels on an individual, channel by channel basis, and then receive a total cost based on those channels? If I want ONLY the Science channel, then I should be able to purchase JUST the science channel for like, $5/mo.

The science channel will be a lot more than $5/mo if all the sports fans aren't forced to subscribe to it just to get their ESPN. It sounds reasonable that ala carte pricing should be cheaper because you shouldn't have to subsidize channels you don't watch, but people forget that others are also subsidizing the channels they watch. The reality is that channels are already roughly priced according to their popularity…

It's really the other way around. Sports channels can't pack 24 hours of interesting content and are rapidly dying. ESPN has been crying for years now that they're dying a slow pitiful death. Sports fans don't want access to all sports, don't even want access to their sports, they want access just to the specific games they want to watch or think are important. Sports commentary outside of games just isn't compelling enough TV for casual sports fans to really watch and most of it is variations on "this season team will work harder and not let other teams beat them" with archetypes of rebuilding, can-they-hold-onto-the-magic, underdog-story-of-the-season mixed in.

The rest of cable offerings is the only thing keeping these channels alive because nobody is really watching them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/09/07...

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Former Aereo engineer here. First off, there are really two main reasons for someone not to have a cable subscription: 1. They don't care about the content 2. Price sensitivity At Aereo, we saw these sort of mix together to create hugely elastic demand. For a while, we offered a $1 "day pass" that would give you access to live TV for 24 hours at a time. During the Super Bowl and various award shows, we had crazy numb…

Loved Aereo! Though and as of now your hard wired Internet provider makes it impossible to have just affordable Internet without having some type of TV package. Any streaming service who doesn't also provide Internet service is highly disadvantaged! I been paying $55 for 12 months for Internet and a few local and cable channels. Now that's expiring it went up to $70 a month but Internet alone is either $50 for 6Mbps…

You'll be happy to know that the Aereo crew (myself included) is currently working on a fixed wireless ISP using millimeter waves and some very fancy active phased array technology.

Still doing crazy stuff with antennas.

https://starry.com/internet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7YYAc9rq4g

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post #198

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But we don't know that. All they've told us are the OTA channels.

Blog post lists more: https://youtube.googleblog.com/2017/02/finally-live-tv-made-...

thanks for that, confirming that BTN is offered will help me convince the wife, if she can't see her Nebraska Cornhusker Football it would be a non-starter.

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Former Aereo engineer here. First off, there are really two main reasons for someone not to have a cable subscription: 1. They don't care about the content 2. Price sensitivity At Aereo, we saw these sort of mix together to create hugely elastic demand. For a while, we offered a $1 "day pass" that would give you access to live TV for 24 hours at a time. During the Super Bowl and various award shows, we had crazy numb…

Just to clarify a bit:

I do think OTT is going to win out in the long run. But that's really just the underlying technology.

The tough part is getting rid of the bundle. I'm not so sure that'll happen, although I really hope it does.

All of these giant media companies would much rather sell you 10 channels for $20 than a single channel for $5.

If a la carte starts happening in a serious way, it's going to be a huge win for consumers. But almost nobody on the other side really wants it. They're going to fight tooth and nail to keep the bundles.

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post #49

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Why would I pay $35 a month to stream broadcast channels that are freely available in HD over the air in my area? It's one thing if they provided something like Netflix. But it's absolutely bonkers that they're selling what is already a free resource. What's the value-add?

"It's one thing if they provided something like Netflix. But it's absolutely bonkers that they're selling what is already a free resource. What's the value-add?" • 6 users can watch on their own devices simultaneously. • Unlimited Cloud DVR. ^^ value add

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post #49

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Why would I pay $35 a month to stream broadcast channels that are freely available in HD over the air in my area? It's one thing if they provided something like Netflix. But it's absolutely bonkers that they're selling what is already a free resource. What's the value-add?

"It's one thing if they provided something like Netflix. But it's absolutely bonkers that they're selling what is already a free resource. What's the value-add?" • 6 users can watch on their own devices simultaneously. • Unlimited Cloud DVR. ^^ value add

You can have 6 user "accounts", but only three simultaneous streams.

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> and I can skip all ads... Where are you seeing that? If it's anything like Sling or PS Vue you're not skipping ads, you're streaming live TV.

The Verge confirms you can skip ads: http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/28/14750894/youtube-streaming... And it's got an infinite DVR. I almost never get to actually watch TV live. Hell, even when I watch TV live, I prefer to pause, go to the bathroom, get something to drink, and then skip commercials. I'm just saying - if I can skip commercials automatically, or without much pain, that'd be very nice.

The ad skipping sounds just for the DVR. Which is fine for shows you don't need to see live, but you're not doing it for sports or first-run content (what would you even be skipping to?).

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post #103

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"It's one thing if they provided something like Netflix. But it's absolutely bonkers that they're selling what is already a free resource. What's the value-add?" • 6 users can watch on their own devices simultaneously. • Unlimited Cloud DVR. ^^ value add

ah, 6 users means the service costs as little as $5.83 if you do it right.

Doubtful, outside of single-household sharing; I'd be very surprised if they got to avoid the contractual terms that limit your ability to share a PS Vue account in the same way - you have to activate a "home device" to anchor the account and regularly using six different devices in different locations would probably trigger some sort of fraud check.

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Former Aereo engineer here. First off, there are really two main reasons for someone not to have a cable subscription: 1. They don't care about the content 2. Price sensitivity At Aereo, we saw these sort of mix together to create hugely elastic demand. For a while, we offered a $1 "day pass" that would give you access to live TV for 24 hours at a time. During the Super Bowl and various award shows, we had crazy numb…

Just to clarify a bit: I do think OTT is going to win out in the long run. But that's really just the underlying technology. The tough part is getting rid of the bundle. I'm not so sure that'll happen, although I really hope it does. All of these giant media companies would much rather sell you 10 channels for $20 than a single channel for $5. If a la carte starts happening in a serious way, it's going to be a huge w…

Have you seen this talk? Talks exactly about what you mentioned.

http://www.recode.net/2017/2/20/14666282/ben-thompson-strate...

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