Who gonna pay $35/month? It does not make sense when you can get TV subscription for $10/month
YouTube TV
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#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
> and I can skip all ads... Where are you seeing that? If it's anything like Sling or PS Vue you're not skipping ads, you're streaming live TV.
The Verge confirms you can skip ads: http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/28/14750894/youtube-streaming... And it's got an infinite DVR. I almost never get to actually watch TV live. Hell, even when I watch TV live, I prefer to pause, go to the bathroom, get something to drink, and then skip commercials. I'm just saying - if I can skip commercials automatically, or without much pain, that'd be very nice.
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#153When am I going to be able to choose my channels on an individual, channel by channel basis, and then receive a total cost based on those channels? If I want ONLY the Science channel, then I should be able to purchase JUST the science channel for like, $5/mo.
The science channel will be a lot more than $5/mo if all the sports fans aren't forced to subscribe to it just to get their ESPN.
It sounds reasonable that ala carte pricing should be cheaper because you shouldn't have to subsidize channels you don't watch, but people forget that others are also subsidizing the channels they watch. The reality is that channels are already roughly priced according to their popularity and most people won't save much, if any, money with ala carte pricing.
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#154This is a cool idea but it still falls very short by not serving users outside of the US. To the point where the welcome page doesn't even acknowledge that there may be global interest: https://tv.youtube.com/welcome/ (enter your ZIP code, no country picker ... YouTube, you do realize you're on the internet, right?) Does YouTube care about getting content to the world? Or just getting as many of their fingers in the…
The geo-restricted licensing model is applied because Google has no choice in the matter. They have to abide by laws just like everyone else.
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#155Former Aereo engineer here. First off, there are really two main reasons for someone not to have a cable subscription: 1. They don't care about the content 2. Price sensitivity At Aereo, we saw these sort of mix together to create hugely elastic demand. For a while, we offered a $1 "day pass" that would give you access to live TV for 24 hours at a time. During the Super Bowl and various award shows, we had crazy numb…
Loved Aereo!
Though and as of now your hard wired Internet provider makes it impossible to have just affordable Internet without having some type of TV package. Any streaming service who doesn't also provide Internet service is highly disadvantaged!
I been paying $55 for 12 months for Internet and a few local and cable channels. Now that's expiring it went up to $70 a month but Internet alone is either $50 for 6Mbps or $85 for 25Mbps. 6Mbps is junk and Comcast knows it and if I added YouTube my expenses would be $85, yet who knows if 6Mbps would support solid streaming?
I'm waiting for 5G fixed wireless from Verizon and Att for some competition to Comcast! I'm sure they too will make it equally unaffordable to just have Internet without their DirectTV Now and Fios. Erggh these OTT services have a tough road ahead of them.. they will probably all end up merging with internet providers.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's probably not even possible to offer US cable networks outside of the US. They only have licenses from the content creators to show inside the US. Besides, all their competitors are US only as well - Sling TV, DirecTV Now. Someday who knows, but for now live linear is very region-locked.
Parent's point is still valid. There's another 3+ billion of internet users outside the U.S., it would be nice not to be an afterthought's afterthought. They just need to say "Sorry, this product will not be available outside the U.S. at launch." Is it so hard?
Yes it is. From what I understand, a network will license a show to another network in another country, probably in an exclusive way. So they can't just "oh yeah you're paying us millions to distribute in your country? Let me just walk over you by streaming directly to your customers."
It doesn't work like that. These contracts are worth more than the few users that are willing to pay to stream across borders. Sad but that's TV life.
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can't bash on sitcoms and call SyFy "pretty good." In my opinion, half the stuff in SyFy is worse than sitcoms.
SyFy has really upped their game in the past year or so. The Expanse, Killjoys, and The Magicians are good TV.
I'm actually really enjoying The Expanse and The Magicians (to the point where I bought one on Google Play and the other on iTunes). What's really cool is that I bought the current season up front and then get to watch the new episodes the day (or maybe day after?) they're released. I'm not sure if Syfy is the only channel doing that, but before these shows I was used to only being able to buy the season after it was released (e.g. Game of Thrones box set).
I'll have to check out Killjoys, given that you've put it between the two other shows that I enjoy. Thanks for the rec.
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#158I asked my questions in a "dupe" thread so reposting here.
From TV to internet to TV on internet to internet TV on any devices. One thing I wonder about is how people who purchase "bundles" traditionally will react. I'd imagine they are the biggest consumer of TV programs. (TV + INTERNET or TV + Phone + Internet style bundles). Will it end up costing the same when you break you bundle to only get internet from a provider and get "TV" from Youtube?
Another question I have is about the "cloud DVR". How does it work? Is the content already in a server somewhere so when I hit the "DVR" it just tags that? It makes no sense saving the same content multiple time because multiple people tried to DVR the same episode right?
Is lot of the modern TV already through internet? If not, won't this cause an increase in internet bandwidth used? Maybe it's no significant but i'm curious about it none the less.
There was a talk on HN about cell phones and FM being enabled on it. Will a similar thing happen on TV, i.e my TV won't work without internet in the future?
Does privacy concerns increase with this? Is it easier to track users view patterns and what not with this as opposed to traditional tv? Will it be more likely that people will post the episodes or clips they watch to youtube or will it be less common as it will be even easier for youtube to recognize and flag stuff? (I wonder if youtube will provide a tool to post tiny clips directly from TV so people can have discussions and what not as well). Thanks in advance if anyone takes time to answer any of my question!
Edit: https://youtube.googleblog.com/2017/02/finally-live-tv-made-...
It's unlimited but for 9 months. So you'll have to Re-DVR it when/if air's again i guess?
Makes more sense for people already paying for youtube red I guess? Creators on youtube red might get more traffic too possibly.
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#159$420 a year to watch broadcast TV?
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#160When am I going to be able to choose my channels on an individual, channel by channel basis, and then receive a total cost based on those channels? If I want ONLY the Science channel, then I should be able to purchase JUST the science channel for like, $5/mo.
The science channel will be a lot more than $5/mo if all the sports fans aren't forced to subscribe to it just to get their ESPN. It sounds reasonable that ala carte pricing should be cheaper because you shouldn't have to subsidize channels you don't watch, but people forget that others are also subsidizing the channels they watch. The reality is that channels are already roughly priced according to their popularity…
Except the relative viewer numbers will be taken into account in their contracts with the cable companies.
If a channel attracts fewer customers to the package, it will get less money in return for its inclusion, so nothing is really being "subsidised".