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SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond the Moon Next Year

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Re: SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond the Moon Next Year

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A quote from an article on the Verge says "Musk declined to comment on the exact cost of the trip, but said it was “comparable” or a little more than the cost of a crewed mission to the International Space Station." Does anyone have a rough estimate how much a manned mission to the ISS currently costs?

On a different end of the spectrum, Emily Calandrelli is giving a $35M figure for the last ISS ticket: https://twitter.com/TheSpaceGal/status/836333012056842240

Re: SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond the Moon Next Year

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> We are excited to announce that SpaceX has been approached to fly two private citizens on a trip around the moon late next year. They have already paid a significant deposit to do a moon mission. Can't wait to hear who booked this trip! Definitely one of the coolest ways to spend a lot of superfluous money :)

It could be Elon.

Re: SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond the Moon Next Year

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> The next person to take a picture of the Earth from moon may not be on a government funded mission. Note that the press release says: Most importantly, we would like to thank NASA, without whom this would not be possible. NASA’s Commercial Crew Program, which provided most of the funding for Dragon 2 development, is a key enabler for this mission. Your tax dollars, if you are American, helped pay for this. Thank yo…

The tax dollars we spent on this would probably have funded about twelve seconds of the Iraq occupation instead, so I'd say sure, easily worth it.

Along those lines, just the air conditioning for tents in Iraq and Afghanistan circa 2011 eclipsed NASA's budget http://gizmodo.com/5813257/air-conditioning-our-military-cos...

Re: SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond the Moon Next Year

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The next person to take a picture of the Earth from moon may not be on a government funded mission. Note that the press release says: Most importantly, we would like to thank NASA, without whom this would not be possible. NASA’s Commercial Crew Program, which provided most of the funding for Dragon 2 development, is a key enabler for this mission. Your tax dollars, if you are American, helped pay for this. Thank yo…

> if not, was it worth the risk? yes

The reason you have a computer that fits in your pocket, much less requires its own room with a reinforced floor is due to the NASA space program.

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Re: SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond the Moon Next Year

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The next person to take a picture of the Earth from moon may not be on a government funded mission. Note that the press release says: Most importantly, we would like to thank NASA, without whom this would not be possible. NASA’s Commercial Crew Program, which provided most of the funding for Dragon 2 development, is a key enabler for this mission. Your tax dollars, if you are American, helped pay for this. Thank yo…

> if not, was it worth the risk? yes

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Re: SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond the Moon Next Year

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> We are excited to announce that SpaceX has been approached to fly two private citizens on a trip around the moon late next year. They have already paid a significant deposit to do a moon mission. Can't wait to hear who booked this trip! Definitely one of the coolest ways to spend a lot of superfluous money :)

It could be Elon.

Hopefully it isn't. In the event that something goes wrong, we need him here.

Re: SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond the Moon Next Year

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Doesn't really matter what it exhausts, it expends energy either way. If it ran on hydrogen, you'd probably have to use electrical energy to produce that. Even if you somehow got the hydrogen "for free", there are other things you could use it for. This is all quite separate from the moral issue, to which I have nothing to add.

> Doesn't really matter what it exhausts, it expends energy either way. Energy usage is not the only consideration, and it certainly does matter what it exhausts. Exhausting an inert gas is definitely preferable to a greenhouse gas, which would be preferable to exhausting anthrax, etc. The composition of the exhaust is going to affect the positivity of the public reaction to a billionaire burning it into public air s…

Even in the ideal case (inert gas, no anthrax rocket, the first stage duly recycled), the energy usage would remain as a consideration.

You may have a point regarding the public perception; don't really care to weigh in.

Re: SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond the Moon Next Year

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Just looking up records: the furthest anyone has ever been from Earth is Apollo 13 who passed 158 miles above the lunar surface. I imagine that would be a pretty easy record to break, if you're doing a translunar flight anyway then getting a bit higher doesn't take much more energy (source: played a lot of Kerbal). On the other hand the passengers might prefer a close-up view of the Moon to a record.

But the moon isn't at a fixed distance. It's possible that one of the other cislunar or landing Apollo missions was more distant, geocentrically, even with their standard 69-mile lunar orbital heights.

Did some more research, and yes, Apollo 13 was indeed the furthest in geocentric distance as well.

Re: SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond the Moon Next Year

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Wow. This sends so many thoughts cascading through my head that I'm dizzy. Some things to consider, China has been working up to getting a space capability to send people to the Moon with the full backing of the government funding, by 2035[1]. They started in 2003. SpaceX was founded in 2002 and they are saying they will fly someone around the moon next year? Dragon has the deltaV to land on the moon (not sure if it…

> The next person to take a picture of the Earth from moon may not be on a government funded mission. Note that the press release says: Most importantly, we would like to thank NASA, without whom this would not be possible. NASA’s Commercial Crew Program, which provided most of the funding for Dragon 2 development, is a key enabler for this mission. Your tax dollars, if you are American, helped pay for this. Thank yo…

Tax dollars, yes but not as any kind of subsidy.
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