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SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond the Moon Next Year

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Re: SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond the Moon Next Year

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Shouldn't they consider a staged approach, not unlike FDA trials. Start with a Laika dog, proceed with a chimp, as all other space programs have done in the past?

Also, if this succeeds, what happens to Google's moonshot projects? Is rebranding in the works?

Re: SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond the Moon Next Year

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The space ship is already being developed for the Commercial Crew program. The rocket is a new rocket but with the same engines and the same upper stage. This does not seem so impossible. A couple of delays will happen, but all in all, there is no fundamental problem.

I agree, there is no fundamental problem. But that couple of delays will bring the actual date much further away than "late next year". I'm sure Elon Musk is capable of great things, it's just that he's very obviously squeezing the people in his companies to the limits and beyond, by publicly announcing objectives that are just about possible, provided that his employees will work day and night for entire years.

I simply don't understand why people are always up in arms about his companies being so bad with their employees. Lots of companies push people to do more ours. God knows, I have worked insane hours for far worse reasons.

Plus the actual evidence for Elons companies being far worse then anybody else is not really there.

Plus, its not like all those educated people that work at SpaceX would live in the gutter if they can't do the job.

Re: SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond the Moon Next Year

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Isn't the exhaust just water?!?

Not for the Falcon 9/Falcon Heavy that will be used in this launch; it uses RP-1 (basically very pure jet fuel, AKA kerosene) and liquid oxygen as fuel. The Shuttle and the new Space Launch System will use hydrogen/LOX, which exhausts basically water vapor.

Well, not the SRB part.

Re: SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond the Moon Next Year

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I'm gonna make my tip, given Elon's history: Sergey Brin and Larry Page Two of his freind rich enough, geeky enough, to go first.

I would maybe guess Branson and Bezos as a stunt promoting private space tourism and thereby their space companies :)

Re: SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond the Moon Next Year

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Best news I've heard today, if I had that much $ I too would want to do something that only a handful of humans have ever experienced. If Elon reads this I will give you everything in my bank account and everything I will earn in the next 5 years to orbit the earth. It has been a dream of mine and seeing the privatization of space flight gets me so excited for the future. Sucks to be my kids as I hope I get to blow their inheritance on a trip to the moon.

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Isn't the exhaust just water?!?

As an interesting bit of trivia: the most prevalent greenhouse gas in the atmosphere? Water vapor.

Which doesn't mean that emitting water vapor from a rocket adds to global warming. It just adds to the rain.

Re: SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond the Moon Next Year

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Absolutely incredible. This will be the furthest that humanity has journeyed away from Earth in a very long time. However it is worth noting that there hasn't been a single crewed Dragon flight yet. There are demonstator flights scheduled for this year though with the first NASA crewed mission slated for May 2018. That's an incredibly aggressive timeline but if anyone can achieve it, SpaceX can. The long duration fli…

> That's an incredibly aggressive timeline Sometimes i wonder if that's an strategy from the management team to put pressure in the engineers.

That's always the case, in my experience.

Re: SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond the Moon Next Year

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Not sure everyone will see it that way. One could look at it as taking the whole "wasteful private jet" to the extreme. Think of the sheer amount of fuel burned in the earth's atmosphere so a rich guy can fly in space. At least, I expect many will spin it that way.

Isn't the exhaust just water?!?

Doesn't really matter what it exhausts, it expends energy either way. If it ran on hydrogen, you'd probably have to use electrical energy to produce that. Even if you somehow got the hydrogen "for free", there are other things you could use it for.

This is all quite separate from the moral issue, to which I have nothing to add.

Re: SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond the Moon Next Year

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The Moon has no atmosphere to use to shed speed. Very different animal than a Mars landing, to the point where it'd need a totally different landing vehicle than Mars. Think heavy, shielded Apollo command modules versus the spidery lunar landers.

There's about .7kPa of atmos on mars. I'd have a hard time seeing how that would meaningfully influence escape or entrance velocity. In fact it should make entry easier because you'll have a higher resistance coming in meaning you'll have to do a lower deceleration burn. Could you provide a source, of someone with experiance in this sort of work, telling me why this is the case? Why does this completely change the ga…

http://www.universetoday.com/7024/the-mars-landing-approach-...

Money quote: “There’s too much atmosphere on Mars to land heavy vehicles like we do on the moon, using propulsive technology completely,” said Manning, “and there’s too little atmosphere to land like we do on Earth. So, it’s in this ugly, grey zone.”

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