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DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Well, soy is not the worst it could be. If it doesn't affect the taste too much, I wouldn't actually mind it. OTOH, I've eaten in some vegetarian places which make faux chicken, faux beef, faux shrimp etc. which taste pretty much like (at least some variations of) the real thing. As a meat lover, I was surprised how close they are to the real thing, I now believe with some effort at least most of the common meat usag…

Quantity is defined by mass.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

#173
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>If it's 50%, that's a serious level of carbs An ounce of tofu has about 0.5g of carbs. I don't think it's going to add more than a few grams for an entire sandwich.

You win the NASA award for mixing metric and imperial in the most nonsensical way.

Most people in the US measure food in ounces, but carbs are almost always listed in grams. It's common enough that I didn't even think about it when I wrote it.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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To give American grocery store sliced white bread some texture, just toast it! Still, essentially American bread is just bread , that is, made almost entirely just from flour, water, yeast, and salt. Maybe the main difference is that with machines the dough is kneaded a lot and, then, permitted to rise (have the yeast grow) a lot. Commonly can also get wheat bread that has some whole wheat flour and typically is not…

Carbs are like Lego blocks. The singular blocks are called "sugars" and include things such as fructose (fruit sugar) and blood sugar. When fructose or glucose enter the digestive system, they are readily processed and enter the bloodstream as glucose. Here, cells take up as much glucose as they can, which can turn into a problem if decades-long oversaturation continues unabated. The only way cells can block glucose…

>When fructose or glucose enter the digestive system, they are readily processed and enter the bloodstream as glucose. Here, cells take up as much glucose as they can

An excellent reason to have as much muscle as possibile so all these delicious carbs go into making your muscles look nice and full. Mmmm I love carbs. I also hate it when people try and make carbs look evil, it's so necessary for me. My daily maintenance calories is 2700. Anything less than that and I'm losing weight. Without carbs I'd look flat and have to eat that all from solid food :(

Unless you have little muscle. Then you should probably avoid carbs.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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post #72

Well, soy is not the worst it could be. If it doesn't affect the taste too much, I wouldn't actually mind it. OTOH, I've eaten in some vegetarian places which make faux chicken, faux beef, faux shrimp etc. which taste pretty much like (at least some variations of) the real thing. As a meat lover, I was surprised how close they are to the real thing, I now believe with some effort at least most of the common meat usag…

> soy is not the worst it could be If you're only eating one chicken sandwich. However, if consumers turn a blind eye to this, it sets an unhealthy precedent. As a large consumption of soy has been associated with decreased testosterone. If more and more business start toeing the regulation lines and only putting in as much real meat as legally needed, filling the rest in with soy, it might start an epidemic.

You should be more concerned about dairy:

http://www.livestrong.com/article/554285-does-milk-raise-est...

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Not good for low-carb/keto eaters. Soy has carbs, chicken doesn't. There has been some discussion regarding subway and carbs in the chicken, because their nutrition shows far fewer than some app trackers do. If it's 50%, that's a serious level of carbs, and makes Subway not an option.

Who on a low carb / keto died eats a sandwich ?

You can eat a sandwich on a low carb or even a keto diet while staying within carb limits. It's not like it's Kryptonite.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

#178
post #82

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If you are gonna complain, you should complain that they are needlessly hatched, caged and slaughtered. If we weren't eating them, we'd also stop growing them.

I feel like you have a point in there somewhere. Would you like to share it?

His point is that though they may be "needlessly slaughtered", they would not have been born if not for that purpose.

My personal extension of this is that if you believe that the well-being of the chicken is all that matters, and if you believe that the chicken was better off never having lived, then you should avoid meat. However, if the chicken is better off for having lived, you should eat meat.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

#179
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Yeah...I don't see too much to be outraged about here. If you want to be upset about adding soy to the chicken you eat, be upset about the soy they add to the chicken before they kill it. Soy isn't part of the natural diet for chickens, so feeding it to them means also feeding them antibiotics. If anything, lowering the percentage of chicken that's raised in that way would make it healthier.

By that logic, you'd be okay with steaks that are 50% beef and 50% corn. Or even better, 50% beef and 50% grass.

My point was that even the chicken breast you buy in the supermarket is, unless it's antibiotic-free, not really 100℅ chicken either. Choosing this (Subway adding soy to the chicken) as the line that was crossed seems arbitrary. To my mind, the line was crossed a long time ago. It's why I only eat meat a few times per year and I ensure that it's the expensive all-natural variety. I'd rather eat vegetarian than the frankenmeat that's most common in this country.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Typically it has a significant amount of sugar (like, considerably more sugar than salt, 1 gram or more per slice). Also lots of dough conditioners which are added for various reasons. I know I've eaten commercial bread with enough lactylate ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactylate ) in it to give me some pretty awful gastrointestinal symptoms. My test wasn't blinded, but the effect was dramatic enough. At the momen…

> Typically it has a significant amount of sugar (like, considerably more sugar than salt, 1 gram or more per slice). Contrary to graycat's ingredient list, sugar is a key ingredient of nearly every leavened bread recipe. About 40g/loaf is the typical amount (about three tablespoons). I would be very surprised if you could find a bread recipe that doesn't have about that much sugar, unless it is specifically trying t…

French bread by law does not have sugar. You don't add sugar to sourdough either.
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