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DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by dvdhnt »

contingencies wrote: post #67
coldtea wrote: post #42

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> Subway has become the supplier of subs at the lowest cost. What this means is that bean counters dictate what the subs contain. Well, corporate bean counters would have sold heroin to children if it was profitable and they could get away with it. That's the thing, though: Subway should not be able to get away with it. As long as it calls the product it sells "chicken", it should be chicken, and anything else should…

corporate bean counters would have sold heroin to children if it was profitable and they could get away with it They sell nicotine, which is arguably worse.

Maybe in 1987[1]?

Seriously, though, as someone who is staunchly anti-smoking, I'm interested to hear the argument as to why you think that is.

1. http://www.nytimes.com/1987/03/29/magazine/nicotine-harder-t...

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by blackguardx »

vonmoltke wrote: post #143
kaybe wrote: post #89

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And let me just note that what the English-speaking world considers bread is an abomination. Sincerely, a German. (Seriously, if you can compact it easily to a third of the size, that's just wrong. And don't get me started on the strange interior.)

Seriously, what bread besides Irish soda bread can you not easily compact to a third it's size?

The German bread that he is talking about is probably this:

https://www.amazon.com/Mestemacher-Bread-Whole-17-6-Ounce-Pa...

It is incredibly dense, like a brick. A slice is more like a non-crunchy cracker. I like it because it doesn't seem like it ever goes stale. (Or maybe it does and the texture doesn't change?)

It is good but you would have to be an extreme German nationalist to enjoy it more than a good French baguette.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by AndyNemmity »

greendestiny_re wrote: post #146
graycat wrote: post #118

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To give American grocery store sliced white bread some texture, just toast it! Still, essentially American bread is just bread , that is, made almost entirely just from flour, water, yeast, and salt. Maybe the main difference is that with machines the dough is kneaded a lot and, then, permitted to rise (have the yeast grow) a lot. Commonly can also get wheat bread that has some whole wheat flour and typically is not…

Carbs are like Lego blocks. The singular blocks are called "sugars" and include things such as fructose (fruit sugar) and blood sugar. When fructose or glucose enter the digestive system, they are readily processed and enter the bloodstream as glucose. Here, cells take up as much glucose as they can, which can turn into a problem if decades-long oversaturation continues unabated. The only way cells can block glucose…

That was enjoyable to read, do you have a link to other articles you've posted, like a blog or something?

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by abakker »

throwaway2048 wrote: post #151
refurb wrote: post #142

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mechanically separate meat is a paste-like meat product produced by forcing pureed or ground beef, pork, turkey or chicken, under high pressure through a sieve or similar device to separate the bone from the edible meat tissue .[1] What is unappealing about that? It's still meat, just finely ground. And if you're keen on not wasting meat, it's a great way to get the last bit of meat off a carcass. [1] https://en.wiki…

they feed whole chicken carcasses through grinders and strain out the bone/feather/etc fragments.

Does it have a different macro nutrient or vitamin content as a result? Seems like you'd get more calcium, or other bone matter if it was done that way.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by blackguardx »

whyenot wrote: post #100
oxide wrote: post #5

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At least it isn't sawdust.

Apparently dairy cows are perfectly happy and healthy eating a diet that is mostly sawdust. At least, that's what I learned when I took a course on ruminant nutrition and digestion when I was a graduate student at UC Davis.

That makes some sense. Cows should be able to live on anything that is mostly cellulose. Whether they are "happy" about it is another question.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by [deleted] »

gech wrote: post #95
TheCoreh wrote: post #4

> The majority of the remaining DNA? Soy. The headline got me sorta terrified, imagining what sort of repugnant, monstrous creature was being grinded and mixed into my Subway sandwich. Good to know at least it's just soy.

Plus preservatives. Preservatives lead to cancer.

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Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by dredmorbius »

ac29 wrote: post #116
derefr wrote: post #103

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What would make a better protein "filler" for mechanically-separated chicken? Almonds?

Almonds cost ~3-4x per pound as chicken.

A valid point, though there might be others. Texturising additives which keep and store well (almonds, almond-meal, or almond paste might, say, keep longer and better than chicken, with less refrigeration) could also be considerations.

It's also possible that almonds rejected from other uses (for cosmetic reasons, small fragments) might be less expensive than whole, high-grade consumer almonds.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by jimmaswell »

graycat wrote: post #118
kaybe wrote: post #89

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And let me just note that what the English-speaking world considers bread is an abomination. Sincerely, a German. (Seriously, if you can compact it easily to a third of the size, that's just wrong. And don't get me started on the strange interior.)

To give American grocery store sliced white bread some texture, just toast it! Still, essentially American bread is just bread , that is, made almost entirely just from flour, water, yeast, and salt. Maybe the main difference is that with machines the dough is kneaded a lot and, then, permitted to rise (have the yeast grow) a lot. Commonly can also get wheat bread that has some whole wheat flour and typically is not…

Wheat/whole grain bread always tasted like mud to me, with an unappealing rough distracting texture. Never really got how there was enough demand for it to be produced even 1/3 as much as white wonderbread-type bread, which has always seemed perfect to me.

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Post by dredmorbius »

jplasmeier wrote: post #46
curun1r wrote: post #37

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Yeah...I don't see too much to be outraged about here. If you want to be upset about adding soy to the chicken you eat, be upset about the soy they add to the chicken before they kill it. Soy isn't part of the natural diet for chickens, so feeding it to them means also feeding them antibiotics. If anything, lowering the percentage of chicken that's raised in that way would make it healthier.

> Soy isn't part of the natural diet for chickens, so feeding it to them means also feeding them antibiotics. Do you have any more info on this? I was under the impression that giving chickens antibiotics was illegal and so feckless that it isn't even worth breaking the law for. I could be wrong as well, honestly.

Antibiotics can be used in poultry feed, but must be phased out prior to marketing such that there are no detectable levels in the meat.

This addresses concerns over antibiotics in the consumed product, but not the problems of antibiotic resistance promoted through use in animal feed, which really must stop.

https://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm378100.h...

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Post by mahyarm »

et-al wrote: post #145
mahyarm wrote: post #26

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SOMA is the office district, with some apartment buildings added. The mission, china town and others is where there is more culture and such.

> SOMA is the office district, with some apartment buildings added. Warehouse district is more accurate. And SoMa has shaped much of San Francisco culture. Maybe not the way we see it now, but without SoMa, many geeks and artists may not have settled here in the 90s. When you think of loft living in San Francisco, you think of SoMa. Dance parties? 1015, Mezzanine, Cat Club, DNA Lounge, etc. Spaces for who don't parta…

They eat their microwave dinners at home instead :P
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