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DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by CydeWeys »

WillPostForFood wrote: post #53
Drumlin wrote: post #29

I've only been to a Subway outlet once and was amazed by how much of it was processed meat - a relative said the same recently. Go into a good independent sandwich shop and all the meat will be unprocessed (except where expected) and you get more options like unusual cheeses. Subway has taken what was already a fast food (the sandwich) and made it even more generic.

In a good independent sandwich shop, you'll get a much better sandwich, with higher quality bread, and meat, but the meat is still going to be processed. Salami, ham, prosciutto, bacon, mortadella, pastrami, sausage, are all processed meats by definition. Most chicken and turkey will be processed/cured/flavored as well. You might occasionally find a sandwich shop that has a whole roast turkey or pig they'll slice, bu…

I'm not going to get a processed chicken breast sandwich at a local shop, but apparently that's all that Subway sells.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by openasocket »

Preemo wrote: post #88
Preemo wrote: post #30

I'm amazed so many people are fine with the other ingredient being soy; I could go on for hours as to why that's among the worst things to be substituted with. -95% of soy in the US is GMO, lacking any genetic variance and little make-up of microorganisms (good bacteria.) -It's also a horrible source of fats, and more in particular the omega-6 to 3 ratio is incredibly hostile to basic function on the cellular level.…

Tough crowd! I'm not going to get too detailed here, I'll let you do your own research: -Hormone disruption from the lack of useable amino acids and 'bad cholesterol' from which your body cannot properly create/maintain cellular function (immune system, endocrine system, gene expression.) Alternatively, with healthy fats and saturated fats from unprocessed red meat, including the good balance of proper amino acids, f…

1. Yes, bad things happen when you don't have enough of all the amino acids. That's malnutrition. That would only matter if you ate soy and only soy.

2. Not all pesticides, just some, but yes that's true. But that's not specific to soy, it's specific to all crops. And crops are washed, you generally don't get significant doses of pesticides in your food.

3. The whole microflora mental health connection science is in it's infancy. The entire thing reads like 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon: some microfloura produce neurotransmitters, which can affect the gut, which can cause an immune response, which can cause inflammation, which is associated with certain psychiatric conditions. I'm not saying there's nothing there, but we're years away from having a more complete understanding. Of course, I have no idea what this one has to do with soy.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by derefr »

AndyNemmity wrote: post #15
TheCoreh wrote: post #4

> The majority of the remaining DNA? Soy. The headline got me sorta terrified, imagining what sort of repugnant, monstrous creature was being grinded and mixed into my Subway sandwich. Good to know at least it's just soy.

Not good for low-carb/keto eaters. Soy has carbs, chicken doesn't. There has been some discussion regarding subway and carbs in the chicken, because their nutrition shows far fewer than some app trackers do. If it's 50%, that's a serious level of carbs, and makes Subway not an option.

What would make a better protein "filler" for mechanically-separated chicken? Almonds?

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by lotharbot »

andai wrote: post #79
salesguy222 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not unfortunate when you think of all the chickens that are needlessly slaughtered to appeal to people's unhealthy dietary laziness ^.^

ITT: triggered carnivores

you should scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on the "rules" link, and familiarize yourself with our community expectations.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by ChuckMcM »

Its interesting that corporate had a different notion. So perhaps down on the line somewhere, someone is mixing in big bags of tofu into the chicken parts grinder and boosting their profit by selling it as 100% chicken. At least one of the Parmesan/sawdust suppliers was the culprit (that and lax oversight by the buyer).

Always a challenge when the fitness test becomes 'cost' rather than 'quality' how many things can be snuck in there.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by WillPostForFood »

andrewprock wrote: post #44
Preemo wrote: post #30

I'm amazed so many people are fine with the other ingredient being soy; I could go on for hours as to why that's among the worst things to be substituted with. -95% of soy in the US is GMO, lacking any genetic variance and little make-up of microorganisms (good bacteria.) -It's also a horrible source of fats, and more in particular the omega-6 to 3 ratio is incredibly hostile to basic function on the cellular level.…

What would your preferred chicken substitute be? None of the bullets you list seems like a credible reason to not use soy. GMOs are perfectly healthy, as are carbohydrates. Lacking fat isn't a big deal either. I suppose you might suggest there are healthier alternatives, but chief among those alternatives would be to not eat at a fast food joint.

I agree with you about GMO, however a better substitute for soy would be more chicken. Also, lacking fat is a big deal when it is substituted for carbs, and you are on a low carb high fat diet.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by a3n »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #21
AndyNemmity wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not good for low-carb/keto eaters. Soy has carbs, chicken doesn't. There has been some discussion regarding subway and carbs in the chicken, because their nutrition shows far fewer than some app trackers do. If it's 50%, that's a serious level of carbs, and makes Subway not an option.

Who on a low carb / keto died eats a sandwich ?

I will often order a hamburger and leave the bun aside. The bun is just filler. I've done the same with other kinds of sandwiches.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by a3n »

curun1r wrote: post #37
TheCoreh wrote: post #4

> The majority of the remaining DNA? Soy. The headline got me sorta terrified, imagining what sort of repugnant, monstrous creature was being grinded and mixed into my Subway sandwich. Good to know at least it's just soy.

Yeah...I don't see too much to be outraged about here. If you want to be upset about adding soy to the chicken you eat, be upset about the soy they add to the chicken before they kill it. Soy isn't part of the natural diet for chickens, so feeding it to them means also feeding them antibiotics. If anything, lowering the percentage of chicken that's raised in that way would make it healthier.

Well fine, tell me it's half chicken and half soy, and I'll make an informed decision.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by trendia »

escot wrote: post #13
chrisseaton wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's the only food place open in SF SOMA late night Wow that surprises me. I would have though SOMA would have been one of the best places in the world for people with disposable income leaving startups late and wanting to buy food on the way home.

The SF food scene is falling apart and it's somewhat caused by tech workers eating all their meals at their office.

"Eating their meals"

Well, the ones who are still eating their food rather than drinking Soylent.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by a3n »

WheelsAtLarge wrote: post #28

Subway has become the supplier of subs at the lowest cost. What this means is that bean counters dictate what the subs contain. It's never top line products and they add fillers where ever they can without killing the flavor 100%. It's not a surprise that they use soy. It's just unfortunate that they have to get to this point. I don't know if it's universal but my local subway has reduced the diameter of the bread ro…

> "Our recipe calls for one per cent or less of soy protein in our chicken products."

> "We will look into this again with our supplier to ensure that the chicken is meeting the high standard we set for all of our menu items and ingredients."

Ah, the beauty of third parties shows itself once again. "Now, supplier, we want a one hundred percent chicken product, but we will only pay 50% of what that would cost. We're relying on you to get this right."

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