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White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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This is exactly the strategy the WH is starting to employ. Look at Russian tactics against the press in 2006-2007 and you can predict the WH next move. They are stealing from their playbook. Revoke. Replace. Erode.

Maybe Infowars will get the president on the record about Pizzagate.

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Maybe this will send a message to said media outlets to stop making crap up and traffic in real issues with some impartial professional journalism that used to occur in this country.

It is absolutely not the place of the president to "send a message" to the press.

Whose place is it?

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> Obama did the same thing FYA: > Barack Obama's campaign has booted from its airplane three reporters who work for newspapers that have endorsed John McCain. > The campaign says that a limited number of seats forced it to make the tough decision of which journalists would be permitted to follow the Democratic presidential candidate in the last four days of the campaign, but the papers are calling foul, claiming they…

How about these then: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/10/10/cpj-report-on-... Obama vs. Free Press: White House Claims Ban on News Photographers Actually a ‘Win’ for Transparency

Keep in mind that the 24-hour news cycle is a relatively new 21st century thing, so comparisons about information control to earlier times isn't straightforward. Monitoring every action of a politician is much more intense than previously.

It doesn't make the actions in the link right, but it's important to keep that context in mind.

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I think at this point the White House Correspondents Association should disband, and all reputable outlets should pull their reporters, similar to how a government official might resign in protest of something.

What would we miss? Another story about spin?

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

#165

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This is exactly the strategy the WH is starting to employ. Look at Russian tactics against the press in 2006-2007 and you can predict the WH next move. They are stealing from their playbook. Revoke. Replace. Erode.

Maybe Infowars will get the president on the record about Pizzagate.

Alex Jones loves Donald Trump. He's unlikely to hold him to account for anything, except maybe not being paranoid enough, until his audience drops and new ideas come crawling out of whatever hole Alex keeps them in.

I would say he's a joke, but it's way creepier than that.

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I'm finding I'm having a hard time reconciling the current climate - not necessarily at his supporters (or the opposite), but just at how polar opposite everyone seems to be on this. For me, I see these organizations as not treating him poorly, but actually willing to call out things he is not being factual on. But at the same time, maybe I'm being biased against him. I want the discourse, but I'm just struggling to…

At this point, an unbiased observer who just looks at, say, NYT would likely come to the conclusion that one of the following statements must be true: a) President Trump is a pathalogical liar or b) The NYT is a pathological liar when talking about Trump. There is no middle ground where NYT is being fair, and Trump is being reasonable. This means that any reasonable person with a position on this issue must take at l…

It's -possible- this is an intentional strategy: people who want to believe the administration are peeled away from news media that aren't 100% in line with the administration's agenda. If you like Trump and want to believe what he says, reading the NYT has got to be an exercise in frustration.

Once all remaining supporters don't watch any media that isn't Trump Approved(TM), they're locked in permanently.

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Depends on if they start excluding organizations and lining up softballs from cranks.

yes but all Presidents do this, including Obama

You are making a false equivalency [1]. Every president has to manage relations with the press but Trump's press relations are not normal.

[1] http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-battles-pres...

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No, it isn't a good message at all. In fact, I'd say it's downright ominous. FCC is in the middle of legalizing regional monopolies, DEA is busy banning Kratom in the middle of the worst opiate crisis in decades, and the White House is barring media outlets from press briefings. it doesn't even sound like I'm talking about America, right? something is very, very wrong.

> FCC is in the middle of legalizing regional monopolies, DEA is busy banning Kratom in the middle of the worst opiate crisis in decades, and the White House is barring media outlets from press briefings. Actually everything except the press ban sounds pretty much like the American I can remember since my teenage years. What do you think happened during the crack epidemic? The rules to prevent these large media monop…

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Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

#169

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Depends on if they start excluding organizations and lining up softballs from cranks.

This is exactly the strategy the WH is starting to employ. Look at Russian tactics against the press in 2006-2007 and you can predict the WH next move. They are stealing from their playbook. Revoke. Replace. Erode.

There is a good write up on how Putin manages his media relations and uses it as a "powerful weapon" [1].

[1] https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/04/ho...

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