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White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by meentsbk »

I'm finding I'm having a hard time reconciling the current climate - not necessarily at his supporters (or the opposite), but just at how polar opposite everyone seems to be on this.

For me, I see these organizations as not treating him poorly, but actually willing to call out things he is not being factual on.

But at the same time, maybe I'm being biased against him.

I want the discourse, but I'm just struggling to understand how the views can be so strongly split from one extreme to the other, and what that means moving forward.

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by gknoy »

yummyfajitas wrote: post #45
mtgentry wrote: post #6

Only the AP choose to not attend out of solidarity? Shame on ABC, CBS, and the rest.

I don't recall the NYT, CNN or Politico refusing to attend when Obama kicked the Washington Times and NY Post out. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=6156794&pag... Shame on them too?

> The campaign says that a limited number of seats forced it to make the tough decision of which journalists would be permitted to follow the Democratic presidential candidate in the last four days of the campaign

That seems like a much more limited kicking-out than what our current administration is doing, and the constraints of an airplane seem much more limiting than those of the white house's press room.

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by sidlls »

bullfightonmars wrote: post #47
clamprecht wrote: post #11

For anyone who has actually watched these press briefings in their entirety: Does anyone else think these are pretty much the worst way to get to the bottom of issues? Here's how it seems to work: * The press secretary (or President, or whoever) makes a statement * He or she chooses a journalist to ask a question * Journalist asks question * Press secretary answers question in as much or as little detail as he/she wa…

These press briefings provide direct, multilateral, and unmoderated access to the Presidential Administration by the Press Corps. They are incredibly important to holding the administration to account for policy. Can the administration spin their own narrative? Sure, but they can't directly control or audit the questions asked.

Now if only an actual Press Corps existed in this country.

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by gizmo686 »

clamprecht wrote: post #11

For anyone who has actually watched these press briefings in their entirety: Does anyone else think these are pretty much the worst way to get to the bottom of issues? Here's how it seems to work: * The press secretary (or President, or whoever) makes a statement * He or she chooses a journalist to ask a question * Journalist asks question * Press secretary answers question in as much or as little detail as he/she wa…

I view press briefings (in almost all contexts) as a platform for the speaker to get their message out. That the press gets to ask questions just helps advise the speaker on where there is uncertainty/ambiguity in their statements.

Under a "normal" administration, they are a pretty good way to get the official story, but journalism still requires investigation.

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by bullfightonmars »

yummyfajitas wrote: post #45
mtgentry wrote: post #6

Only the AP choose to not attend out of solidarity? Shame on ABC, CBS, and the rest.

I don't recall the NYT, CNN or Politico refusing to attend when Obama kicked the Washington Times and NY Post out. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=6156794&pag... Shame on them too?

You comparing the actions of a non-sitting candidate for President to the actual President. I don't think they are equivalent.

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Post by festivusr »

yummyfajitas wrote: post #45
mtgentry wrote: post #6

Only the AP choose to not attend out of solidarity? Shame on ABC, CBS, and the rest.

I don't recall the NYT, CNN or Politico refusing to attend when Obama kicked the Washington Times and NY Post out. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=6156794&pag... Shame on them too?

They weren't kicked out from the normal White House press briefing. I'm sure you know that from reading the article.

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Post by neilellis »

yummyfajitas wrote: post #45
mtgentry wrote: post #6

Only the AP choose to not attend out of solidarity? Shame on ABC, CBS, and the rest.

I don't recall the NYT, CNN or Politico refusing to attend when Obama kicked the Washington Times and NY Post out. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=6156794&pag... Shame on them too?

Apples and Oranges.

Plane Seats vs Press Briefing

Campaign Trail vs Whitehouse

Re: White House Bars NYT, CNN, and Politico from Briefing

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Post by cynicalkane »

yummyfajitas wrote: post #45
mtgentry wrote: post #6

Only the AP choose to not attend out of solidarity? Shame on ABC, CBS, and the rest.

I don't recall the NYT, CNN or Politico refusing to attend when Obama kicked the Washington Times and NY Post out. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=6156794&pag... Shame on them too?

You're comparing seats on a campaign airplane to the White House Press Corps?
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