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Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

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Most of the crimes in Sweden is done by immigrants. Sweden is the rape capital of Europe. It's creepy to see this kind of behaviour condoned and labeled as nothing. Sweden: Rape Capital of the West https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape Everything is factual in that statement but seems to burst some peoples bubble.

This my friends is propaganda.

Excuse me? Downplaying migrant rape and crimes is propaganda.

Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

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It's totally irrelevant that the crimes has decreased. The point is that a majority of all violence and sexual crimes is performed by immigrants (as confirmed by Sweden's most famous crime professor GW a couple of days ago). Why are you so afraid to see that immigrants are over represented in this category of crimes?

Leif GW Persson, who the above commenter is talking about clarified this on TV just a couple of days ago. The segment starts 18 minutes in and is in Swedish: http://www.svtplay.se/video/12505960/veckans-brott/veckans-b... (hoping there is no region blocking...)

Would you mind giving a quick summary of the video? I'm somewhat challenged in the 'understanding Swedish' department.

Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

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Not sure what stats back up this claim. I've heard people say this movement is anti-globalization, about the economy, anti-PC, anti-establishment - yadda yadda yadda. Everyone has a theory, and it seems like people just choose the one they like best. Trump at the moment has a very low approval rating - maybe not everyone got what they read into him?

>Trump at the moment has a very low approval rating - maybe not everyone got what they read into him? Polls also predicted him to have less than a 10% chance of winning the election. Not all data is good data.

If the polls had said "0.1% chance", I would agree with you. But a 10% chance is actually quite high odds. Things much less likely than that happen to everyone, every day.

The predictions were essentially right. Hillary Clinton had a better chance of winning the election, but Trump successfully rolled the dice with his 10% odds: he campaigned in some critical states that were expected to go blue and won them over by a narrow majority.

Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

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post #70

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It's totally irrelevant that the crimes has decreased. The point is that a majority of all violence and sexual crimes is performed by immigrants (as confirmed by Sweden's most famous crime professor GW a couple of days ago). Why are you so afraid to see that immigrants are over represented in this category of crimes?

They talk about it in the article > People from foreign backgrounds are suspected of crimes more often than people from a Swedish background [...] In a later study, researchers at Stockholm University showed that the main difference in terms of criminal activity between immigrants and others in the population was due to differences in the socioeconomic conditions in which they grew up in Sweden. So it seems that whil…

I'd say THAT is irrelevant. If I become victim of a crime, it doesn't console me if the perpetrator is poor. I just don't want to become a victim of a crime.

Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

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Same as in Belgium then. They even throw stones at fire-fighters when they are doing their job. So nothing to worry about, right? And I don't know if it is the same in Sweden, but you are not really politically allowed to say what kind of people live in those neighborhoods. So again, nothing to worry about.

> Same as in Belgium then. They even throw stones at fire-fighters when they are doing their job. So nothing to worry about, right? Who reports that people do that? Tabloid newspapers? They've been lying about that for decades. After the 1989 Hillsbourogh disaster (where people died due to health & safety issues, and negligence from the police), tabloid newspaper The Sun wrote a full page headline accusing Liverpool…

Denial of reality is as bad as story fabrication

Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

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This discussion about whose statistics are more correct, seems to me to resemble those who argue that certain races have statistically higher IQ or statistically higher net worth or are statistically more inclined to be involved in crime.

OK, so you have statistics that show that you are right. What you going to do with them? Start discriminating against every single individual of that particular ethnic group?

Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

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post #70

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It's totally irrelevant that the crimes has decreased. The point is that a majority of all violence and sexual crimes is performed by immigrants (as confirmed by Sweden's most famous crime professor GW a couple of days ago). Why are you so afraid to see that immigrants are over represented in this category of crimes?

Good to know though is what GW is famous for. Being an infamous alcoholic.

How is this relevant to the discussion? It's almost as if you seek to undermine his argument by pointing out that he has an addiction. Why would you do that? Are you scared of what he thinks and says?

Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

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Absolutely remarkable.

The United States, a country with roughly 16,000 murders a year and 90,000 rapes [1], where a violent crime occurs roughly occurs every 26.3 seconds and a rape every 4.2 minutes [2] is focused on the volume of crime in Sweden.

This is a level of delusion and farce that is without precedent. We've entered a true Twilight Zone where people have completely disconnected from reality and are now truly just fantasizing about symbols that have no connection to reality. The whole "Sweden debate" really shows what direction this country is going in and it's just remarkable.

[1] https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/latest-crime-statistics-rel... [2] https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-...

Re: Facts about migration and crime in Sweden

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Same as in Belgium then. They even throw stones at fire-fighters when they are doing their job. So nothing to worry about, right? And I don't know if it is the same in Sweden, but you are not really politically allowed to say what kind of people live in those neighborhoods. So again, nothing to worry about.

I think one of the problems when talking about these issues is the frame of reference. I have lived in the most dangerous part of our town (Linköping) for several years. I come from Latvia where a 'dangerous' part of a town meant that you do not go there because you will be robbed / knifed / shot in broad daylight. It was absolutely not the case with the most dangerous part of Linköping, even though people who had no…

Exactly, using the Swedish tabloid definition of a "no-go zone", the poorer parts of most US cities would be no-go zones.
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