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Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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This could be a good opportunity for DuckDuckGo to make some money and improve awareness of their brand.

No kidding! I would totally give such a service a serious look for future client work.

It's happening right now: https://duckduckgo.com/search_box

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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No kidding! I would totally give such a service a serious look for future client work.

It's happening right now: https://duckduckgo.com/search_box

That's not quite what I'm looking for - I need an API. I need to maintain client branding on site without mentioning the search service provider - and I would expect to be billed for that.

The conversion here at HN on this topic has been useful in pointing out such services that I didn't know about, for which I am thankful!

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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I'm betting that Google Photos will necessarily stick around in order to keep Android competitive with iOS (and perhaps Windows.) I desperately hope they make it a paid service, if needed, rather than shutter it. I've fully committed and have uploaded 40,932 photos. All of the automation has been amazing.

I'm not trying to be a dick and am genuinely curious. What are you going to do with those 41 thousand photos? Do you ever go back and look at them? I see lots of people taking a ton of photos, they get stored in the cloud automatically, and then... what? Does anybody ever go back and look at that bad photo of a fish they took at an aquarium five years ago?

As an example: I wish so dearly I could have more than a few physical photos of the summer I spent in England 12 years ago. Of the friends I made, the things we did, and the places we visited.

As you say, I barely look at my pictures from 1 or 2 years ago (except for the "this day X years ago" feature, which is awesome). But I'm positive that 10 years from now I'll be glad to have them, for the nostalgia trips.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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This may sound defensive, but its just a genuine answer, as I agree that many photos are pretty pointless. In my case I uploaded every photo I've taken since I got my first digital camera in 2000, and I do look at some of them. To try to answer your question directly: I just checked and I have roughly 100 albums with roughly 50 photos, so I expect that I'll go back to those when I want a trip down memory lane, etc. A…

Do you have a local backup of those photos? Every now and then someone's Google Account gets mistakenly shut down by, I presume, some automated risk assessment process and they can have a really tough time contacting anybody to rectify the issue. I'd say you can use Google's services as tools, but not as the basket where you put all your eggs.

Dataloss/lockout is a great concern of mine and I am somewhat exposed. For DSLR photos, I persist them on disk, then upload to Google Photos. For smartphone, I periodically copy the new ones to disk. Then that disk is remotely backed up. However, I am exposed to losing all of my GPhotos meta data (primarily albums and captions) as well was the smartphone photos since my last manual backup.

I have accepted this tradeoff. It would be pretty devastating to loose all that organization, but its recreatable and the value I get out of Google Photos trumps that risk.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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This may sound defensive, but its just a genuine answer, as I agree that many photos are pretty pointless. In my case I uploaded every photo I've taken since I got my first digital camera in 2000, and I do look at some of them. To try to answer your question directly: I just checked and I have roughly 100 albums with roughly 50 photos, so I expect that I'll go back to those when I want a trip down memory lane, etc. A…

The value of Google's automated processing of images can't be understated. Last year I uploaded roughly 50,000 photos to Google, which was every photo I had taken since 2006. Google automatically created albums for every vacation I'd gone on in that time, plus many of the major events. Weddings, concerts, etc, were all identified. Also the face search is probably the most brilliant piece of it. I began meticulously t…

I completely agree. In other software labeling (albums, location, faces, tags, etc) is tedious, time consuming and fragile. In Google Photos I barely even think about it.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Gmail is shit. Gmail is Email Extraordinaire but if something goes wrong and you lose access, good luck gaining it back. Try to call somebody. This, and all the privacy issues.

Account recovery is a shitshow everywhere, either it's almost useless or it's a huge vulnerability with no good middle ground I've seen. For a moment I thought this would be a good use case for federated authentication, but who would you even trust to run that securely?

How about a company that you pay and that you can call? (and maybe submit a passport copy if need be or something)

They sell email for your own domain (you can also buy a domain there): https://www.infomaniak.com/en

Bonus: Based in Switzerland, no EU or US jurisdiction.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Why not just use CaptureOne/LightRoom, and have encrypted offsite backups? Using a specific product to "store" pictures sounds silly.

I use Lightroom, but it's fairly "dumb" in its approach to photo management: no features, no surfacing of old content, just a useless grid. GPhotos on the other hand surfaces old photos in interesting ways, shows you moments from the past and even sometimes creates cool edits on its own. It's actually pretty magic, and feels years ahead of Lightroom.

Well, they're also for different use cases, so I don't think "ahead" is the right word. Lightroom is pro-oriented and assumes that you know what photo you want to find, whereas consumer photo apps are more about browsing and availability than anything else (hence the autogenerated montages and cloud storage integration). But that is exactly why I use a combination of Lightroom and Apple Photos. (edit: Though I wouldn't mind having some of these slick organization/discovery features in Lightroom as long as they didn't ruin the rest of the experience.)

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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this is why i'm not completely 100% with google photos. i'm ready to spend the monthly fees to store all my pictures in its original resolution, use google photos to manage/search my photos. except i don't want to commit to using it and then finding out google doesn't want to support it and just dumps it. same thing with google voice. i use it but i've never committed to using it as my main phone number. maybe it's a…

Gmail and Google Drive, my biggest ties. I can't see either of these going away, because like many mentioned these services are consumer based which Google seems to care about more. Well, I heavily use Adwords professionally and that support used to be pretty decent - though I feel it's gone downhill very quickly lately. Someone will answer your call but the expertise is lacking which is fine for your level 1 support…

The strategy makes sense to me. Hire people who deeply understand the product to support users. Get as much feedback and use cases as you can. Then eliminate support costs once you've found your place in the market by first replacing staff with lower paid, less knowledgeable people, then automate it.
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