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Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by nattaylor »

coldpie wrote: post #124
nattaylor wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm betting that Google Photos will necessarily stick around in order to keep Android competitive with iOS (and perhaps Windows.) I desperately hope they make it a paid service, if needed, rather than shutter it. I've fully committed and have uploaded 40,932 photos. All of the automation has been amazing.

I'm not trying to be a dick and am genuinely curious. What are you going to do with those 41 thousand photos? Do you ever go back and look at them? I see lots of people taking a ton of photos, they get stored in the cloud automatically, and then... what? Does anybody ever go back and look at that bad photo of a fish they took at an aquarium five years ago?

This may sound defensive, but its just a genuine answer, as I agree that many photos are pretty pointless.

In my case I uploaded every photo I've taken since I got my first digital camera in 2000, and I do look at some of them.

To try to answer your question directly: I just checked and I have roughly 100 albums with roughly 50 photos, so I expect that I'll go back to those when I want a trip down memory lane, etc.

As for the other ~36k, I don't have any statistics but:

* On ~10 occasions I've sent emails to friends after getting one of the "this day in YYYY" notifications with a link to the photos

* On a few (~4) occasions, I've used the faces grouping to find old, fun photos of friends

* Yesterday I happened to get a "This day in YYYY" notification that reminded me about an event I photographed at my neighbors house, but had forgotten to send the photos (7 years ago, oops)

* I'd rediscovered some DSLR photos I probably would have missed thanks to the "approx location tagging" (that taps in my phones location history)

* I share photos far more frequently since its free, unlimited and auto-upload

* The auto-animations and auto-panoramas have made me go back and rediscover photos from some old trips

* Just the other day my Mom was interested in a photo she remembered me taking on a trip in 2013. I was able to search the place name and find the photo in seconds

I started down the path of Google Photos because my old workflow of manually merging smartphone and DSLR pics on disk and then not having a good centralized album management system felt clunky.

I'm surprised by how often I find myself going to http://photos.google.com now.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by ams6110 »

coldpie wrote: post #124
nattaylor wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm betting that Google Photos will necessarily stick around in order to keep Android competitive with iOS (and perhaps Windows.) I desperately hope they make it a paid service, if needed, rather than shutter it. I've fully committed and have uploaded 40,932 photos. All of the automation has been amazing.

I'm not trying to be a dick and am genuinely curious. What are you going to do with those 41 thousand photos? Do you ever go back and look at them? I see lots of people taking a ton of photos, they get stored in the cloud automatically, and then... what? Does anybody ever go back and look at that bad photo of a fish they took at an aquarium five years ago?

This is the reason I pretty much stopped taking photos altogether. I realized I almost never go back and look at them.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by mcguire »

kristopolous wrote: post #87
i336_ wrote: post #69

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c2 recently became obsessed with "federated wikis" apparently due to some unimpressed person threatening to batch-delete the entire site. Unfortunately JavaScript-based solutions became interesting. I'm mildly curious what would happen if you tried to build NetSurf on that thing. It compiles for AmigaOS and RISC OS...

First let me apologize to the HPUX wizard that will very likely read this for being such a bumbling amateur. Anyway, here I go: H3:54/raid/hp/netsurf-all-3.6$ gmake --version GNU Make 3.80 H3:55/raid/hp/netsurf-all-3.6$ /usr/local/bin/gcc --version gcc (GCC) 3.3.1 H3:55/raid/hp/netsurf-all-3.6$ gmake BUILD_CC=/usr/local/bin/gcc CC=/usr/local/bin/gcc ... gmake[1]: Entering directory `/raid/hp/netsurf-all-3.6/libwapcap…

"Looks like some serious effort. To put things in context, I can't do remote X to a modern machine as in

    "$ DISPLAY=desktop:0 xterm&
"This gives a protocol error."

Ok, I'm impressed. That's the first time I've seen that.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by Nadya »

d0vs wrote: post #93
Fej wrote: post #58

I wonder if it would be worth the money for Google to keep services like this one running, just so that people (especially enterprise customers) don't lose faith in Google's competency with regard to long-term product support. Although if you ask around here, you'd probably not find much faith for them to save.

I honestly don't think people outside the HN echo chamber care that much.

I don't care as long as "site:example.org query" still works on google.com

Effectively does the same thing.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by drzaiusapelord »

smilespray wrote: post #82
ethana wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stucked in time: http://www.excite.com/

Holy crap, I worked on parts of the UI on that site. No idea it was still online.

Really? What years?

I guess it'll stay up as long as it generates revenue via ads. Its still someone's homepage I suspect. The elderly still using AOL perhaps?

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by kristopolous »

rfrey wrote: post #109
ethana wrote: post #18

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Stucked in time: http://www.excite.com/

And if that's not good enough... they have a LITE VERSION. http://lite.excite.com/

Simply making a version of X that loads on dialup is itself a market segment. Clone some popular websites but sacrafice everything.

Also I've long wanted an HTTP caching mechanism that permits cross origin caching, so people aren't redownloading the same dependencies. Essentially the server responds with a digest and if the browser has a match from any domain, it forgoes the download.

Is there a hard to trigger collision attack possible? Sure but I don't care.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

#137

Post by drzaiusapelord »

Animats wrote: post #5

It's not ad-supported, so Google has to actually sell the service and collect money from large numbers of small users. Google is not good at that.

Uh, CSE is stayin and you can pay to remove ads from CSE. Once you run out of searches they send you a link and you click on it and press 'ok' under business. It uses your stored business card. Its pretty quick and I can't imagine it being an issue for anyone. Google also takes payments for other services like Play Music, Youtube Red, Apps, etc.

I imagine the issue is that GSS hides a lot, (all?) of Google's branding while CSE doesnt as its a page hosted by Google.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by fcmk »

nattaylor wrote: post #131
coldpie wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not trying to be a dick and am genuinely curious. What are you going to do with those 41 thousand photos? Do you ever go back and look at them? I see lots of people taking a ton of photos, they get stored in the cloud automatically, and then... what? Does anybody ever go back and look at that bad photo of a fish they took at an aquarium five years ago?

This may sound defensive, but its just a genuine answer, as I agree that many photos are pretty pointless. In my case I uploaded every photo I've taken since I got my first digital camera in 2000, and I do look at some of them. To try to answer your question directly: I just checked and I have roughly 100 albums with roughly 50 photos, so I expect that I'll go back to those when I want a trip down memory lane, etc. A…

Do you have a local backup of those photos? Every now and then someone's Google Account gets mistakenly shut down by, I presume, some automated risk assessment process and they can have a really tough time contacting anybody to rectify the issue. I'd say you can use Google's services as tools, but not as the basket where you put all your eggs.

Re: Google Site Search will be completely shut down by April 1, 2018

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Post by owenwil »

overcast wrote: post #125
swang wrote: post #67

this is why i'm not completely 100% with google photos. i'm ready to spend the monthly fees to store all my pictures in its original resolution, use google photos to manage/search my photos. except i don't want to commit to using it and then finding out google doesn't want to support it and just dumps it. same thing with google voice. i use it but i've never committed to using it as my main phone number. maybe it's a…

Why not just use CaptureOne/LightRoom, and have encrypted offsite backups? Using a specific product to "store" pictures sounds silly.

I use Lightroom, but it's fairly "dumb" in its approach to photo management: no features, no surfacing of old content, just a useless grid. GPhotos on the other hand surfaces old photos in interesting ways, shows you moments from the past and even sometimes creates cool edits on its own. It's actually pretty magic, and feels years ahead of Lightroom.
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