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I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again

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Re: I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again

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What is the felony charge? I keep seeing the word "felony" bandied about in this thread. I get it, it's a scary, attention-getting word. Is it really a charge with a minimum 1-year sentence?

It is a felony to lie to a federal agent.

How can they prove it's a lie? Are they tracking my day to day phone?

Re: I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again

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I'm well aware of that. There's nothing on my phone I'd be ashamed to have exposed. Like I said, SSH keys are a concern. In fact, your country's president probably wouldn't care too much if the stuff on his phone was exposed. He seems to be more than happy to make public all his thoughts and opinions.

"There's nothing on my phone I'd be ashamed to have exposed." That's the wrong question, though. (Despite the quote above.) The question is, do you have anything on your phone that someday a government may decide is a reason to do something bad to you? The answer is always yes for two reasons: One, you can't know the future and what it will hold, for instance governments can make laws explicitly for the purpose of "g…

The whole point of my earlier comment was that I want a way to wipe my phone. I think that has been lost.

Re: I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again

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Intelligence agencies aren't stupid. Evidence of attempts to thwart or subvert intelligence gathering is itself suspicious. If the feds seize what looks to them like a burner phone, that may be grounds for them to detain you without trial indefinitely; and may itself become a crime.

That's highly unlikely. How are you ever going to prove that the person just doesn't want to lose their main phone or risk having their information stolen by thieves? It's virtually impossible to get a conviction on circumstantial evidence. Now if you already have a reputation as a suspicious character in your own right, then being found with a burner phone might exacerbate that, but your argument basically depends o…

Conviction is not the issue. The issue is being detained indefinitely in an offshore torture camp. It's like people don't remember Guantanamo Bay.

The judicial system has no sway in Gitmo. Good luck!

Re: I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again

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"There's nothing on my phone I'd be ashamed to have exposed." That's the wrong question, though. (Despite the quote above.) The question is, do you have anything on your phone that someday a government may decide is a reason to do something bad to you? The answer is always yes for two reasons: One, you can't know the future and what it will hold, for instance governments can make laws explicitly for the purpose of "g…

The whole point of my earlier comment was that I want a way to wipe my phone. I think that has been lost.

I thought the point of your earlier comment was that you wanted a way to load different profiles. Otherwise, factory reset seems like a legitimate solution.

Re: I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again

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Why does that need a special mode? Just back up your phone and factory reset it.

I am reminded of a check-box proforma that circulated in the 1990s, pointing-out the flaws any time someone proposed a 'clever' solution to spam: '[X] You are proposing a technical solution to a non-technical problem' The border agent of ${COUNTRY} doesn't care if you wiped your phone accidentally or deliberately; his flowchart says 'access subject's chat history on phone'. If that's not possible, goto 'reject'.

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Re: I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again

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The whole point of my earlier comment was that I want a way to wipe my phone. I think that has been lost.

I thought the point of your earlier comment was that you wanted a way to load different profiles. Otherwise, factory reset seems like a legitimate solution.

Either a duress passcode or different profiles, depending on whether I think I'll get my phone back.

Re: I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again

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Phone's should have a travel mode, where it backs up all your data to the cloud and wipes the phone clean.

What if the agent forces you to give them the password for "untravel mode", which restores data to your phone from the cloud?

"untravel mode" wouldn't be an option on the phone.

Once you get home and want to untravel, you plug your phone in to your desktop and sign in to a cloud service that "untravels" your phone, restoring to the state it was in.

Re: I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again

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That's not the same thing, and nowhere near as helpful. Why would I want to wipe my phone every border cross if I don't have to?

admax88q said they wanted a mode where it wipes your phone. That mode is called "factory reset". If what you want is a mode that wipes your phone only when a CBP agent looks at it, as other people have stated in the comments here, you'd probably be committing some sort of crime (e.g. destruction of evidence or lying to a federal agent). The only truly safe way to cross is to not actually have your data when you cross…

Yes factory reset is pretty much the same thing I was proposing.

The only missing piece is a easy way to restore the phone once I reach my destination.

Re: I’ll never bring my phone on an international flight again

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admax88q said they wanted a mode where it wipes your phone. That mode is called "factory reset". If what you want is a mode that wipes your phone only when a CBP agent looks at it, as other people have stated in the comments here, you'd probably be committing some sort of crime (e.g. destruction of evidence or lying to a federal agent). The only truly safe way to cross is to not actually have your data when you cross…

Yes factory reset is pretty much the same thing I was proposing. The only missing piece is a easy way to restore the phone once I reach my destination.

iCloud backup. It's pretty darn easy to restore an iPhone after factory reset (as long as you have a decent internet connection and are willing to wait for however long it takes to reinstall all your apps and download all your data from the backup).
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