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Re: Starting an Internet Service Provider

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Post by kuschku »

woah wrote: post #82
trafficlight wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll look into it. We should have an unlimited account. Edit: it appears there is a 5 guest limit per paid account. Edit 2: I think I'm going to set up a Mattermost server and push people that way.

Might want to try Riot. It uses a protocol called Matrix, which is the successor to IRC. What this means is that you're not tied to them. Also the web, desktop, and mobile clients are pretty sweet.

Calling Matrix the successor to IRC, when there's actually new IRC standards in development, is very misleading.

Re: Starting an Internet Service Provider

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Post by lotkowskim »

fludlight wrote: post #200
chrishacken wrote: post #169

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> No. And the reality is that IP connectivity is not much different to these other utilities. I understand where you're coming from, but it is different. You have ample power to power your home; utilities can fulfill whatever your power requirements are. The same can't be said about IP. I am literally incapable of live streaming from my parents house, no matter how much I'm willing to pay. There's no internet option,…

I agree with you that rural-broadbandification will be as important as rural-electrification was in the '30s. That said, I think that most lucrative (read: capital efficient) business model here is low-bandwidth web sites, not high-bandwidth ISPs. Does a news site really need to ship 2Mb of JS, a 20Mb auto-play video, and 5Mb of ads to communicate 1.5Kb of plain-text? Maybe if your users have fast connections but not…

Small correction 2 minutes is 120000 milliseconds

Re: Starting an Internet Service Provider

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Post by leog7 »

mildlyclassic wrote: post #178
dboreham wrote: post #162

I feel I need to write the inverse article "Stopping an Internet Service Provider", since I just shut down mine. Although this stuff can be great fun, you have to stop and ask yourself why the market is "under served" and why there isn't already some dude supplying these customers, driving around the city in his Lexus and waxing his new boat on the weekends. The unfortunate truth is that there just isn't that great a…

>A small new player can't compete in either of those markets. We're Wifidabba.com and we're in the current batch of YC. We provide low-cost internet in India at tea-stalls and bakeries. Consumers buy tokens and get access to wifi. In effect, we take a broadband connection and slice it into tiny pieces and sell that as wifi. I guess in some ways we're an ISP, the government certainly thinks so, we've had to apply for…

Reliance jio is providing 4g data almost for free in india why would i want to buy wifi as well ?

Re: Starting an Internet Service Provider

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Post by mildlyclassic »

leog7 wrote: post #205
mildlyclassic wrote: post #178

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>A small new player can't compete in either of those markets. We're Wifidabba.com and we're in the current batch of YC. We provide low-cost internet in India at tea-stalls and bakeries. Consumers buy tokens and get access to wifi. In effect, we take a broadband connection and slice it into tiny pieces and sell that as wifi. I guess in some ways we're an ISP, the government certainly thinks so, we've had to apply for…

Reliance jio is providing 4g data almost for free in india why would i want to buy wifi as well ?

So this is something that surprised me as well, especially given we don't offer free plans or a trial.

When we spoke to our users they said the following: - Way faster than Jio (We offer 100mbps) - The price was so low that they didn't mind paying - They don't trust reliance and the ID process of getting a jio connection - It's so cheap and fits in their daily routine of getting chai, cigarette, etc.

Re: Starting an Internet Service Provider

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Post by [deleted] »

poorman wrote: post #32
trafficlight wrote: post #28

Fantastic write up, Chris. Chris has been hanging out with us (Treasure State Internet, our startup ISP in Montana) in a Slack channel called ISP School. If you're interested in any aspect of starting and running an ISP, please join us. http://slack.tsi.io/#ispschool

It says ura_limit_reached. I'm guessing you don't have enough paid accounts.

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Re: Starting an Internet Service Provider

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Post by zoltanveres »

trafficlight wrote: post #35
poorman wrote: post #32

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It says ura_limit_reached. I'm guessing you don't have enough paid accounts.

I'll look into it. We should have an unlimited account. Edit: it appears there is a 5 guest limit per paid account. Edit 2: I think I'm going to set up a Mattermost server and push people that way.

Hi, let us know when this is ready, i would love to join as well.

Re: Starting an Internet Service Provider

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Post by shambolic »

piker wrote: post #161
shambolic wrote: post #135

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> I'd also guess that passing through a node might cause some slowdowns that kinda stack up. Not really. Fiber has bandwidth to spare. It might add some latency tho, if there are a lot of hops. > There still is a major privacy issue with peeps that are nodes. Encryption is a thing. > And maintenance is going to be a bitch. Yes.

Is it possible to encrypt the destination and source IP in a packet header? Honest question, and, if not, it seems like arbitrary nodes could monitor traffic to and from neighboring nodes and their source/destinations.

Yes. There are various options from Layer 1 encryption to VPNs.

Re: Starting an Internet Service Provider

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Post by shambolic »

mildlyclassic wrote: post #190
bluesign wrote: post #186

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this is mesh network, right? can you tell a bit about your technology?

It's a mesh built on low cost custom hardware. Each node is also super powerful with >128gb storage and some nice computation power, with a GPU to boot :) We're looking to be more than just an ISP in the long run.

What do you need the GPU for? The box does not appear to have a display.
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