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What could happen if you refuse to unlock your phone at the US border?

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Re: What could happen if you refuse to unlock your phone at the US border?

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Rule of Law.

It's so obvious as to hardly bear mentioning, but you can use this to excuse any violation of rights if you want. Sometimes "rule of law" just isn't worth it.

Sure, but you've offered no argument regarding this particular situation.

Re: What could happen if you refuse to unlock your phone at the US border?

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Same result as if you refused to open a securely locked briefcase?

I know right? Phone lock screens could conceal bombs or invasive species.

You're right, digital content can never be harmful. All the bomb blueprints are always on paper.

Re: What could happen if you refuse to unlock your phone at the US border?

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post #258

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Maybe. Seems like the FBI and federal agencies were harassing dissidents a lot worse in the 60s and 70s through COINTELPRO than they are now. I don't know if it's really worse now so much as different with new avenues of harassment into our digital lives. You think dissidents weren't harassed at the border before everyone carried a cell phone? The post I was replying to was basically a vague reference to creeping fas…

Are you able to provide sources for the position you put forth about similar US harassment of political dissidents decades ago? Obama prosecuted more journalists and whistle blowers than any president in history. And we're not talking about turning into Nazi Germany. We're talking about why government crimes against their own people, especially for political speech, should never be allowed to happen because they can…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

Read history outside of school, might learn a thing or two.

Re: What could happen if you refuse to unlock your phone at the US border?

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> But non-citizens, possibly including LPRs, cannot: if an alien attempts to cross the border with a device they can't unlock "because they don't have the corresponding 2FA token with them" (as one friend suggested they do), they'll be detained, their devices confiscated, and then put on a flight out of the country. Wouldn't an OK mitigation be to give the device to a US citizen for the border crossing? The US citize…

If you were traveling with said friend (you being the foreign national and friend being the US citizen), CBP would just make you unlock your own phone. This is not like a logic game you can outwit.

> If you were traveling with said friend (you being the foreign national and friend being the US citizen), CBP would just make you unlock your own phone. This is not like a logic game you can outwit.

It's not a logic game, you're just adding hurdles to the search which make it less likely, and leaning on the legal privileges of the citizen. To do what you propose, CBP would have to flag the citizen for search and connect them to the foreign national before they pass immigration and customs. If they manage to do that, the foreign national needs to comply. If compliance is not an option for them, this idea won't work.

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