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Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by hmantiybet »

tvon wrote: post #87
yumraj wrote: post #55

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Remember Occam's razor: The simplest explanation is usually the right one.

Occam's Razor isn't a proof, it's a rule of thumb to help you find the answers you're looking for.

wow i am amazed at lack of knowledge of HNers That guy has abused OR principal, also its not a rule of thumb nor a proof its a Philosophical argument used in philosophy of science. Read about Falsifiability and then you will understand why Occams razor is important and

""" Just because some theory is simple, yet it never makes it the correct one!! Its just the first one to be consider for refutation! ""

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by lukifer »

apu wrote: post #77
lukifer wrote: post #9

I'm getting really tired of reading hacky comparisons of iPhone vs Android to Mac vs Windows. For one thing, there is not a huge price discrepancy in the smartphone space the way there was on the desktop in the 80s and 90s, when Macs tended to carry a 2-3x markup. There isn't the problem of too few games on the platform; Apple currently has the advantage here, though obviously not forever. And despite Apple's willing…

I think you're wrong about the write-once run-anywhere software ecosystem that Windows had to deal with. There was an incredible proliferation of different hardware -- including drivers etc. -- and it was mostly up to Microsoft to make sure that the OS continued to work flawlessly (or at least at whatever level of semi-stability it managed to attain) across all of these different configurations. This is an enormous r…

> it was mostly up to Microsoft to make sure that the OS continued to work flawlessly

I would say that's the difference: Microsoft abstracted most of the differences through their APIs. Android obviously handles some of these issues, but devs have to pay far more attention to degrading gracefully on different screen sizes, lack of multitouch, lack of hardware keyboard, etc.

Of course, web devs have had to play a similar game with the various browsers for a decade and a half, so it isn't necessarily a show-stopper for the ecosystem.

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by theBobMcCormick »

raganwald wrote: post #84
theBobMcCormick wrote: post #75

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Part of the beauty of Android is that you're not stuck using the music play that comes with your phone. There are many, many music players to choose from in the Android Market. I'm currently fond of MixZing ( http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.mixzing.basic ), but Cubed ( http://www.appbrain.com/app/org.abrantix.rockon.rockonnggl ) seems to be rising rapidly in popularity. There's even btunes ( http://www.appbrain.com/a…

> Part of the beauty of Android is that you're not stuck using the music play that comes with your phone. Apropos of nothing at all, this reminds me of the argument for there being so many incompatible flavours (ahem) of Lisp.

I think this is a little different. There's a huge advantage to developing a common ecosystem around a programming language. For a music player application... hmm not so much.

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by jrockway »

btilly wrote: post #88
tptacek wrote: post #8

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I will never, ever do business with Sprint again, after I cancelled my phone service (twice!), threw out my phone, and they mysteriously re-activated the account a few months later, silently accrued an account balance with late fees, and then reported me to collections.

Back in the 90s my wife and I switched to Sprint, then got a much smaller phone bill than we expected. The following month it was higher than we would have expected, we looked, and it turns out that they included calls that should have been on the first bill. (There were phone calls on the second bill sandwiched between calls on the first bill.) We figured out that they did this deliberately to make people think they…

I use Sprint because they have a 3G/4G data plan. 4G is awesome.

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by tyohn »

raganwald wrote: post #82
tyohn wrote: post #49

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Feeling a little touchy? :)

If I were to write "Ad Hominum much?" how would you feel? Annoyed at me? Certain labels and ways of phrasing things tend to provoke people and lower the quality of discourse.

I agree with you - I didn't add much to the quality of discourse. I just feel like I need to walk on pins and needles here (YC) when I want to voice my opinion about Steve Jobs and Apple. It's almost like I'm drawing a picture of Muhammad...

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by tptacek »

aschobel wrote: post #12
tptacek wrote: post #8

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I will never, ever do business with Sprint again, after I cancelled my phone service (twice!), threw out my phone, and they mysteriously re-activated the account a few months later, silently accrued an account balance with late fees, and then reported me to collections.

The Plural of Anecdote is Not Data

Yes, But I'm Not Sure What Your Point Is.

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by tptacek »

jrockway wrote: post #94
btilly wrote: post #88

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Back in the 90s my wife and I switched to Sprint, then got a much smaller phone bill than we expected. The following month it was higher than we would have expected, we looked, and it turns out that they included calls that should have been on the first bill. (There were phone calls on the second bill sandwiched between calls on the first bill.) We figured out that they did this deliberately to make people think they…

I use Sprint because they have a 3G/4G data plan. 4G is awesome.

Crap. We have CLEAR modems, and Sprint owns CLEAR. I'm doing business with them again. Well, I'll never run my phone service through them.

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by izendejas »

smackfu wrote: post #60
mechanical_fish wrote: post #45

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What higher price? IPhones cost $100 to $300 new with contracts. The Android phones I've seen cost $100 to $300 with contracts. Most of the cost is in the service plans, which are very similarly priced. I suppose there may be a bunch of crappy Android phones, floating around under my personal radar, available for even less than $100. That sounds like false economy to me. If you're gonna get soaked for $2400 in cellul…

http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-A855-Android-Verizon-Wireless... $20

Verizon's also advertising two Droids for the price of 1 (or buy one, get one "free")

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by redrobot5050 »

pyre wrote: post #86
siglesias wrote: post #41

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Uh, battey tech? Trackpad? Everywhere you look on Apple products (if you are discerning) you'll see them utilizing the crap out of their hardware control. If I'm not mistaken we're about to see Apple turn up the heat on further hardware differentiation on notebooks to take advantage of their multi-touch gesture patent portfolio, perhaps by elongating the glass trackpad. On the iPhone front I'm guessing that Apple's c…

> On the iPhone front I'm guessing that Apple's custom silicon will allow them to get raw graphics performance while simultaneously preserving battery life. Where does this assertion come from. Apple has produced a processor that does a great job at conserving battery life. Nothing that I have seen leads me to believe that Apple has the tech/experience to 'get raw graphics performance while simultaneously preserving…

It comes from the iPad. It seems to have an incredible combination of power management, hardware-accelerated video decoding, fast OpenGL (for a handheld) that yields a long-lasting video device. (Despite it being a first generation iPad)

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by rimantas »

buster wrote: post #85
rimantas wrote: post #81

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Yes, I am in denial that Flash is essential feature: I have flashblock extension on my Chrome and Click2flash on Safari.

so you still have it installed, right? strange!

There is a news for you: it comes preinstalled on OS X.
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