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Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by siglesias »

wwortiz wrote: post #19
macrael wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hardware lock in is the much less interesting of the two lock ins you mention. Regardless of which platform you use, you are locking yourself to the software much more than to the hardware.

I think it is more of a case of the software locking you to the hardware for apples case which is rather interesting now that the hardware, at least for Macs, is now pretty much standard hardware with regards to processors and such.

Uh, battey tech? Trackpad? Everywhere you look on Apple products (if you are discerning) you'll see them utilizing the crap out of their hardware control. If I'm not mistaken we're about to see Apple turn up the heat on further hardware differentiation on notebooks to take advantage of their multi-touch gesture patent portfolio, perhaps by elongating the glass trackpad. On the iPhone front I'm guessing that Apple's custom silicon will allow them to get raw graphics performance while simultaneously preserving battery life. Logically this is kind of technology that Google, without control over hardware, is powerless to compete against.

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by tvon »

tyohn wrote: post #32

You know what I kind of like about this post? - before such a post on YC would have been bashed by Apple fan boys... but now after Apple's policy pigeon holed and alienated developers - I'm starting to see a real conversation about some of Apple's issues...

I'm glad enough people agree with you that you don't feel the need to play the fanboy card.

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by gte910h »

noelchurchill wrote: post #18

Does this also mean that Android is destined to be as disliked as Windows, with all the problems that come along with being compatible with some many devices from so many different manufacturers?

To be honest, windows has a lot of advocates too.

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by netcan »

lukifer wrote: post #9

I'm getting really tired of reading hacky comparisons of iPhone vs Android to Mac vs Windows. For one thing, there is not a huge price discrepancy in the smartphone space the way there was on the desktop in the 80s and 90s, when Macs tended to carry a 2-3x markup. There isn't the problem of too few games on the platform; Apple currently has the advantage here, though obviously not forever. And despite Apple's willing…

Another difference that is not to be ignored is that Windows was the backbone of one of the best businesses of the decade, maybe the best.

Android is like a side project. They aren't going to fight for it like Apple will.

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by mechanical_fish »

edw519 wrote: post #10

1980: CPM on your choice of hardware or lock into Apple hardware & software at a higher price. 1990: DOS on your choice of hardware or lock into Apple hardware & software at a higher price. 2000: Windows on your choice of hardware or lock into Apple hardware & software at a higher price. 2010: Android on your choice of hardware or lock into Apple hardware & software at a higher price.

What higher price? IPhones cost $100 to $300 new with contracts. The Android phones I've seen cost $100 to $300 with contracts. Most of the cost is in the service plans, which are very similarly priced.

I suppose there may be a bunch of crappy Android phones, floating around under my personal radar, available for even less than $100. That sounds like false economy to me. If you're gonna get soaked for $2400 in cellular bills over two years you might as well spend the extra 1-4% and do so in style.

Of course, this is a USA perspective. Things are probably very different outside the USA.

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by armandososa »

wolfish wrote: post #36
edw519 wrote: post #10

1980: CPM on your choice of hardware or lock into Apple hardware & software at a higher price. 1990: DOS on your choice of hardware or lock into Apple hardware & software at a higher price. 2000: Windows on your choice of hardware or lock into Apple hardware & software at a higher price. 2010: Android on your choice of hardware or lock into Apple hardware & software at a higher price.

When I bought my first Macbook Pro a few years ago, I purchased it for the hardware and intended to use it to run Windows in Bootcamp. After spending a little time with OS X I came to appreciate it and I now use it exclusively. But my favorite thing about it is the UNIX like underpinning. Which in a sense makes it less locked down than Windows.

Same here. I bought by Macbook just as a nicer alternative to a Dell and six months later I erased my Win partition.

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by noelchurchill »

gte910h wrote: post #43
noelchurchill wrote: post #18

Does this also mean that Android is destined to be as disliked as Windows, with all the problems that come along with being compatible with some many devices from so many different manufacturers?

To be honest, windows has a lot of advocates too.

Ya my dad is a die hard advocate of Windows but he gets frustrated when it doesn't work and asks me for help and I'm like "that's why I don't use windows. figure it out, I can't help you."

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by apphacker »

armandososa wrote: post #46
wolfish wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I bought my first Macbook Pro a few years ago, I purchased it for the hardware and intended to use it to run Windows in Bootcamp. After spending a little time with OS X I came to appreciate it and I now use it exclusively. But my favorite thing about it is the UNIX like underpinning. Which in a sense makes it less locked down than Windows.

Same here. I bought by Macbook just as a nicer alternative to a Dell and six months later I erased my Win partition.

However I may feel about iPhoneOS, Mac OS X is a beast that nothing else can compare to. At least for a consumer unix experience where everything just works.

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by tyohn »

tvon wrote: post #42
tyohn wrote: post #32

You know what I kind of like about this post? - before such a post on YC would have been bashed by Apple fan boys... but now after Apple's policy pigeon holed and alienated developers - I'm starting to see a real conversation about some of Apple's issues...

I'm glad enough people agree with you that you don't feel the need to play the fanboy card.

Feeling a little touchy? :)

Re: Fake Steve Jobs: Why I'm Switching to Android

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Post by Qz »

The article picture, sadly, pushes me towards iPhone (not that I would ever buy one). The iPhone screen seems crisper, the colors are brighter, and the interface looks spiffier. Obviously there are other factors at play, but first impressions count for a lot.
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