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> Look, bandwidth costs money. For the user too, do you think people have unlimited data plans? I'm not paying to see ads. > Don't be an asshole. Because insults are going to rally people to your cause?
You're getting the videos for free ... So that's a weird excuse.
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Ad-blockers are great, but people using them are reaching crossfit-levels of just having to let you know.
Crossfit might kill you, but as a user there's no practical downside to ad blocking. Faster web? Less chance of malware? Less annoyance? Heck, a product marketed as doing all of those things could probably be sold all on its own if not for the meta-irony of an ad for an ad blocker. Seriously though, this is a good thing. Everybody needs to know about and install one. It should be considered a part of basic internet l…
> Ads shorter than 30-seconds, including the 20-second spots, can be made unskippable. uBlock Origin will continue to serve me well.
Youtube has a totally reasonable subscription which hides all ads. If you want to run adblockers on random news sites, whatever, I'm not going to argue, but there's really no excuse on youtube except "I'm a cheap shit"
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I've experienced the advertisement playing flawlessly followed by severe buffering for the real video.
It happens, but I've also experienced the stream playing flawlessly for the first 30s and then severe buffering for the remainder of the video, or the ad buffering and the video not. Network conditions change and buffering happens, but i haven't seen a consistent trend where the content is worse than the ad, like i have on so many other video players.
Sometimes I have to wait 5 minutes to get through a 30 second commercial.
I think a good place for ads would be at the end of the video. I know many people will say that then many ads would never be seen. But I think you should consider the emotion associated with your product when your ad is at the beginning:
If I click on a funny 1-minute cat video, a front-loaded ad first of all makes Youtube act like it's broken. I clicked a link to play a certain video, and it didn't play. Instead something else played. For a brief moment, there is a feeling of brokenness. Then there is a feeling of frustration: you tried to accomplish something, and you were blocked (though temporarily).
The second reason it is so irritating is that it seldom has something to do with you: it's advertising something you don't want. It's like someone who strikes up a conversation with you about something that they find interesting, but they didn't bother to consider whether it interests you. (Google's AdSense doesn't seem to work well in Youtube.)
The third reason it is so irritating is a sense of proportion. An hour-long documentary could do with a 30-second commercial. A 30-second Youtube video seems overburdeded with even a 5-second ad.
If you put your ad at the end, I am in a good mood, because I just finished my cat video. Also, I'm thinking of what to watch next. So an ad playing in the background doesn't bother me as much. Maybe it's even subliminal, since I'm not really concentrating on it. That's just what the advertisers want! ;)
I think ads at the end would also be more in the same spirit as the text-only ads on Google Search, that it would be better to have an ad go unnoticed than have an ad that is interfering. Actually I think the genius is that text-only ads fit in better with text-only search results. The user is already in careful-reading mode. So in fact I think they are more likely to run across the text-only ad than some flashing image, which they would have quickly learned to ignore.
I finally signed up for Youtube Red, despite my pennypinchingness. I think I'll stick with it. It includes also all the free music I want, on Google Play. Through that I found a new album by an obscure band that I always liked. It's only $10 a month, and if you can buy a family plan for $15.
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For being such a bunch of stingy capitalists, it's always surprising to see people defend businesses without viable models. If hosting content online for free isn't working for you, maybe that's not a commercial space worth occupying. Not everything deserves to be paid for, "selfish" or not. Users, aka "the market," will decide if your product is usable despite the income generating parts. Marginally related, if your…
Dunno, what doesn't seem "viable" is serving ads that can be trivially blocked. We haven't even reached the real arms race yet, and people are already talking like adblockers won. Let's pick this convo back up at least when ad networks like Adsense let you proxy through your server, ending an entire class of adblocking at once. And that's not the end of the low-hanging fruit.
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Look, my time is valuable. I decide what media to play based on my preferences. If I don't want to see ads, why would I instruct my browser to play them? If giving out free videos isn't a sustainable business model, change your business model. No amount of shame will ever be effective in getting me to turn off my adblocker. Sorry if this offends you.
> Look, my time is valuable. Clearly your time isn't valuable, as you spend it watching content you value at $0. If the content you watched and hence the time you spent watching it actually held value to you, you would be happy to pay the meagre $10/mo subscription fee.
Also, as it was pointed out in this thread, less than 10% of the world population has access to those subscriptions.
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Look, bandwidth costs money. If you don't want to see ads, just subscribe to Youtube red. Don't be an asshole.
What I find interesting is that google/youtube doesn't circumvent adblockers, though they easily could, given that they own the whole ad supply chain. For example, they could make the ads indistinguishable from the actual video (in the html), or even splice the videos into one stream. My guess is they don't because a) they are wildly profitable anyway, and b) they don't want to alienate adblock users, especially the…
In other news, campaignlive.co.uk still has full-screen pop-up ads. I think a good place for ads would be at the end of the video. I know many people will say that then many ads would never be seen. But I think you should consider the emotion associated with your product when your ad is at the beginning: If I click on a funny 1-minute cat video, a front-loaded ad first of all makes Youtube act like it's broken. I cli…