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The CIA Is Sharing Declassified Maps

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Re: The CIA Is Sharing Declassified Maps

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Is that typical of all cities? How about Paris? Rio? Tokyo? Have a link? I'd like to take a look.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ciagov/30849056096/in/album-72... If it's a tourist map then probably so, but I assume CIA would like to see something more substantial on their map. They're not in for the sights are they?

Most of CIA's work is at the ground level. Stuff relevant for tourists is highly relevant in the field. (Meet this source next to the statue of St. Something, next to the kiosk across from the children's zoo entrance #3.)

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Some are - they are absolutely everywhere in all cities I've lived in or visited, and yet I couldn't tell you the names of more than a couple. Do people really know the names of a significant portion of them?

Probably the people who live in those neighborhoods do, which can be a useful reference if you're in those areas.

Or a useful reference point to call back to the artillery.

Recording information that is tactically useful for a ground battle would almost certainly have been a goal of the mapping program.

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Churches are major landmarks.

They are also long-lived ( on the scale of decades and centuries ) and have reasonably static names.

Yes, although in Soviet Union, they still often had other names and functions (as a movie theatre, or a grain warehouse, or whatever).

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Related is the story of Soviet maps. The Soviets had engaged in a monumental effort to map the world and then during the collapse in one of the republics the classified stack of maps got in the hands of Westerners: https://www.sovietmaps.com/ Here is a longer article about it: https://www.wired.com/2015/07/secret-cold-war-maps/ And also the map of San Francisco from the 80s: http://i.imgur.com/SdmmFUd.jpg

What are the little planes on the San Francisco map? Surely there aren't 12 airstrips in the San Francisco bay. Unless that includes helipads...

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Re: The CIA Is Sharing Declassified Maps

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Related is the story of Soviet maps. The Soviets had engaged in a monumental effort to map the world and then during the collapse in one of the republics the classified stack of maps got in the hands of Westerners: https://www.sovietmaps.com/ Here is a longer article about it: https://www.wired.com/2015/07/secret-cold-war-maps/ And also the map of San Francisco from the 80s: http://i.imgur.com/SdmmFUd.jpg

What are the little planes on the San Francisco map? Surely there aren't 12 airstrips in the San Francisco bay. Unless that includes helipads...

I've flown out of 5 of them - SF, Oakland, San Jose, Palo Alto, San Carlos. You can't land a 747 on all of them but they're definitely airstrips. There might even be more than mapped.

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Secret military installations in Antarctica is not unfathomable. You should read this: http://idlewords.com/2016/05/shuffleboard_at_mcmurdo.htm

It could also be a mine or refinery. In this interview, Admiral Byrd says there are significant coal, oil and Uranium deposits (skip to 7m30s): https://youtube.com/watch?v=czW0iRJuH1A

And where is the bulk or oil terminal? It's impossible to conceal that much shipping.

Re: The CIA Is Sharing Declassified Maps

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I'm a bit surprised that this one was declassified given the sensitive nature of the content. https://www.flickr.com/photos/ciagov/5988128522/in/album-721...

Wait, was this actually classified to begin with? If so, it's a case study in how that power is misused...

The dog is probably one of the bomb-sniffing dogs that work at a CIA building or campus. Any information about the security for CIA locations, I'm assuming, is going to be very well protected information so this is going to include any pictures of the security forces. The picture is just a dog chewing on a stick but the dog is part of the security force and therefore the picture becomes classified. It probably didn't need to be classified. We aren't using some sort of super advanced, secret machine to detect bombs, it's a regular yellow lab. It was probably included in a bunch of pictures that included information regarding the tactics or tools available to the security forces or pictures of secured areas (that aren't generic grassy areas) so the whole group was classified.

Re: The CIA Is Sharing Declassified Maps

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Google will censor just about anything if a government asks them to and claims it's for national security. Hell, they even do it for the uber-rich independent of government.

I'm pretty sure that any US person or organization that doesn't comply with matters supposedly pertaining to national security will go the way of Joe Nacchio and Qwest.

Fife Symington concurs. Although, "security" has nothing to do with it. You are either "in" or you're "out".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fife_Symington#Second_term_.28...

Re: The CIA Is Sharing Declassified Maps

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Related is the story of Soviet maps. The Soviets had engaged in a monumental effort to map the world and then during the collapse in one of the republics the classified stack of maps got in the hands of Westerners: https://www.sovietmaps.com/ Here is a longer article about it: https://www.wired.com/2015/07/secret-cold-war-maps/ And also the map of San Francisco from the 80s: http://i.imgur.com/SdmmFUd.jpg

What are the little planes on the San Francisco map? Surely there aren't 12 airstrips in the San Francisco bay. Unless that includes helipads...

   Take a look here 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_in_the_San_Fr...

  The Bay Area has 3 international airports, 2 federal airports, 8 General aviation towered airports and 15 General Aviation non-towered airports.
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