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I'm really looking forward to the next 5 or 6 years, when all of the software patents created in the 90s and 2000's expire. It can't come soon enough.
Or wait until some conglomerate lobbies hard enough to make software patents last as long as the copyright on Micky Mouse.
Oracle is set to repeat the trajectory of SCO. Their primary product (the Oracle DB engine) is being displaced by the NoSQL and things like Postgres. The "next generation" of developers equals SQL engines with "old and bad", and when forced, it ends up with Postgres anyway. Oracle used to survive in significant part by the support of the "database administrators" class. This layer of support is also becoming thinner…
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Huh? "The 9th [circuit]" is a Federal circuit court...
The terminology's confusing, but there's a court named the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit [1], even though the term "federal circuit court" also colloquially means the Courts of Appeals in general. This Federal Circuit is a non-geographical Court of Appeals, separate from the 11 numbered, geographically based Courts of Appeals, and has exclusive jurisdiction over patent cases (among a few other things). The…
Oracle is such a shit company. There are still some great hackers there but Larry Ellison is an asshole, and I don't envy anyone who has to work for him even indirectly. "Left Oracle's Java business in tatters" eh? Where was their mobile OS? Their Dalvik? The wounds to Java have all been self-inflicted. If they succeed in copyrighting the API then where does this leave OpenJDK? Operating at the mercy of Larry fucking…
Oracle is a parasite, milking the innovations of years ago through customer lock-in and aggressive litigation.
They are a black hole in the tech ecosystem, extracting hundreds of billions of value for themselves, profiting from open source while contributing very little back to the community.
If they win this lawsuit it will be a dark day for innovation and a big loss for shared knowledge and progress.
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Let's assume Oracle wins on appeal... What's next? Is everyone suddenly writing .Net code? Or are we left to find languages with lapsed copyrights? Fortran IV and Snobol are the new hotness! Everyone in to the pool!
Languages without a corporate owner.
Even Fortran, C and C++ compilers depend on the work that a few corporations like Apple, Google, Intel, Microsoft,... put working on the compilers and sending employees to ANSI meetings.
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> it's nearly impossible to find someone separating the quintessential geek love for Google and geek hatred for Oracle from the facts of the case other than Mueller. But you can't separate the facts from the quintessential paid love for Oracle and the paid hatred for Google of Mueller. And exactly what tech has been ripping Google?
>But you can't separate the facts from the quintessential paid love for Oracle and the paid hatred for Google of Mueller. Sure, which is why I was asking you for someone arguing this who was more impeccably non-biased. I realize that some opinions in arguments do not deserve being argued for, such as mass genocide, but I don't think this case is as clear cut and it's a little disturbing to me that the internet was so…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software). Microsoft has not made public statements about Wine. However, the Microsoft Update software will block updates to Microsoft applications running in Wine. On 16 February 2005, Ivan Leo Puoti discovered that Microsoft had started checking the Windows Registry for the Wine configuration key and would block the Windows Update for any component.[95] As Puoti noted, "It's also the first time Microsoft acknowledges the existence of Wine."
That's about as unbiased as you can get IMO.
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Languages without a corporate owner.
JavaScript is right out. There's such a mish-mash of API owners there that it will give decades of court cases from copyright trolls. This is one of the most important tech cases in history. Oracle is on a fast-track to destroying the software industry with it.
For example, the guys from MicroEJ did the things the right way and don't have any issues with Oracle,
http://www.microej.com/products/device-software-development/...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO/Linux_controversies
That hasn't worked out well for them.
IMO, successful technology companies do not correlate with the value dollarsSpentOnLitigation/overallRevenue.
I think selling ORCL and buying QQQ will be a profitable trade in the next 5 or so years.
Although Oracle denied they bought Sun just to sue Google you have to wonder since they are claiming "billions" in damages and only paid $7.4 billion after IBM dropped their $7.0 billion bid. This purchase was such a seminal moment for the industry you have to wonder what an alternative history would look like if say IBM or Google made the purchase not to mention some dark horses like Amazon or Red hat.
To be fair, Google's "don't be evil" is also a bunch of crap. They've done their fair share of shady and exploitive things.
Yeah. I got a suggestion. Don't join the industry. And if you're still in college, don't major in Computer Science Edit: Got hellbanned lol. @gregnoire: HN is a giant circlejerk You prolly think this site is so great and intellectual just because it has ycombinator in the URL. Internet comments fundamentally suck @DanBC: Pretty sure I got hellbanned. It's been an hour, still can't make new comments @sjwright: The med…
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