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2017 State of Global Tech Salaries

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Re: 2017 State of Global Tech Salaries

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Post by matthewbauer »

rattray wrote: post #80
_m8fo wrote: post #60

I'm legitimately interested to see how much software engineers make if they're not White or Asian. Given the lack of women and minorities I'd say minorities are better off being an MD than a SE. In addition, I'm skeptical that an average SE can get offers at places that give them this kind of compensation. --- Take Google for an example. [1] The earning "likelihood" (whether this is cultural, sociopolitical, socioeco…

While I struggle generally to discern what you're trying to say, I'm particularly befuddled by what "MD" refers to here.

MD=medical doctor

Re: 2017 State of Global Tech Salaries

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Post by jorblumesea »

It's really hard to compare real world adjusted incomes because each government/country has varied outlooks on social benefits and safety nets. In the US salaries are high, but the government doesn't give you anything in terms of cheap educational, access to cheap healthcare etc.

I'd be curious to see if there's a way to factor in a global compensation number that includes all factors like stock, education cost and so on.

Completely anecdotal, but my experience with Hired wasn't great. Didn't have many good companies to choose from, the "hiring advocate" wasn't very helpful.

Re: 2017 State of Global Tech Salaries

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Post by vecinu »

phkahler wrote: post #24

Where's Detroit? We had a bit of an exodus back in 2008-2012 but finding people today is like pulling teeth. I'm sure it's a way better financial deal than the bay area.

I think the recent crime/safety reputation its gotten is keeping people (like me) away. I wouldn't move to Detroit even if they paid me $150k, I just don't feel like the risk is worth it.

Re: 2017 State of Global Tech Salaries

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Post by emodendroket »

Stasis5001 wrote: post #48

Every article on salaries seems to really screw up two things. One is, salary is only a portion of total compensation. Which do they mean here? If you don't look at equity packages, my intuition is you're going to think SF sucks, since I think more companies there use stock incentives. I'm not sure anybody has good data on equity packages/total comp, and at the very least, it's not trivial even if you have that data,…

I wonder how typical it is for total comp to be so stock-heavy, though, outside of the handful of Googles and Apples of the world.

Re: 2017 State of Global Tech Salaries

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Post by luizb »

hereiam123 wrote: post #38

And here I am making $72,000 in New Hampshire...45 minutes from Boston. I have a B.S. in computer engineering and now have 4-5 years of professional experience in software (specializing in DevOps). Am I severely underpaid?

> (specializing in DevOps). Am I severely underpaid?

Yes, in fact we are looking for a devops in NH, send your info.

Re: 2017 State of Global Tech Salaries

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Post by sotojuan »

humanrebar wrote: post #53

The problem with straight-across cost-of-living adjustments is that they're only relevant when you're talking about a more-or-less zero savings rate. Assuming you can save 10% of your annual salary a year, you're better off living in higher cost-of-living areas, assuming all other things being equal. Then you are growing wealth (retirement funds, etc.) instead of just getting a more expensive lease for your car or ap…

I think the biggest problem with COL is the fact that COL is a very personal matter.

Here in NYC, most college graduates (programmers or not) share an apartment with flatmates. If you're a programmer, as long as at least one person in the apartment has a non-minimum wage "office" job ($40-50k+), you can live quite comfortably and save a lot unless you decide to live in a penthouse. An average apartment in many areas of Brooklyn split among 2-3 employed people is very affordable.

Even if you want to live alone it's not so bad, but my point is that before someone can decide if NYC is too expensive for them or someone else they should ask more than just their salary.

Re: 2017 State of Global Tech Salaries

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Post by nilkn »

CiPHPerCoder wrote: post #69
kcorbitt wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My commute is a 15-minute walk, or 5-minute bike ride. :) I chose the apartment based on proximity to work -- could have saved $100-200/mo with a longer commute, but the savings would have been more than eaten up by the gas/car maintenance costs and I hate commuting. I still own a car, but don't use it to get to work. We live in a 680 sq ft one-bedroom apartment in an older development ($2200/mo). We'll have to upgra…

> We live in a 680 sq ft one-bedroom apartment in an older development ($2200/mo). Whoa, that's almost double the estimated mortgage for the 5 bedroom houses with an acre of land my family has been looking at purchasing. I'll never move to the SF Bay Area. I encourage others not to, either. Get the companies there to open up to remote employees instead.

If you can get a 5 bedroom house on an acre of land for $1100/month where you're looking, then honestly real estate prices in pretty much any city are going to be a shock.

Re: 2017 State of Global Tech Salaries

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Post by frgtpsswrdlame »

the_gastropod wrote: post #83
CiPHPerCoder wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We live in a 680 sq ft one-bedroom apartment in an older development ($2200/mo). Whoa, that's almost double the estimated mortgage for the 5 bedroom houses with an acre of land my family has been looking at purchasing. I'll never move to the SF Bay Area. I encourage others not to, either. Get the companies there to open up to remote employees instead.

Yes. Urban areas are typically more expensive than rural areas. Maybe if urban residents stopped subsidizing unsustainable rural living, this price gap would shrink.

>Maybe if urban residents stopped subsidizing unsustainable rural living

What do you mean?

Re: 2017 State of Global Tech Salaries

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Post by stuckagain »

kcorbitt wrote: post #61
segmondy wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's your commute like? My friend that moved there who tries to convince me to move out there, has a 2hr one way commute. How many sq feet is your living space for you and your family?

My commute is a 15-minute walk, or 5-minute bike ride. :) I chose the apartment based on proximity to work -- could have saved $100-200/mo with a longer commute, but the savings would have been more than eaten up by the gas/car maintenance costs and I hate commuting. I still own a car, but don't use it to get to work. We live in a 680 sq ft one-bedroom apartment in an older development ($2200/mo). We'll have to upgra…

You don't have to go to Utah to beat that. My mortgage on a SFH in Oakland is $2350/mo, I have 1800 sq ft and a garage and a big yard.

Re: 2017 State of Global Tech Salaries

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Post by emodendroket »

hereiam123 wrote: post #38

And here I am making $72,000 in New Hampshire...45 minutes from Boston. I have a B.S. in computer engineering and now have 4-5 years of professional experience in software (specializing in DevOps). Am I severely underpaid?

I mean, are you willing to commute to Boston? You could definitely make more money.
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