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Evernote’s transition to Google Cloud Platform

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Re: Evernote’s transition to Google Cloud Platform

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Post by mbesto »

cm2187 wrote: post #16

I can understand that a company wants to do away with the distraction of having to worry about running a datacentre but is using one of the major cloud services cheaper than running your own? Amazon and Microsoft seem to be making healthy profits off their cloud services. That's part of your cost. Now it may be that even if more expensive, it is a better use of your capital (renting instead of owning so that you can…

> That's part of your cost.

Except, I get to share one person across several systems.

Simplified example:

$100k/year for a Linux engineer

That same person can upgrade 10 Linux servers (on-premise company) or 1000 linux servers (cloud provider). It may take the 1000 linux servers slightly longer, but the cost to service is still significantly lower.

There's also a lot less variability in skills of the Linux engineer.

I don't think people quite understand that cloud computing is a consolidation and elimination of backend computing jobs, not the increase. The only reason there is an increase in the market, is because the overall pie is growing.

Re: Evernote’s transition to Google Cloud Platform

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Post by aiiane »

jaypaulynice wrote: post #67
cm2187 wrote: post #16

I can understand that a company wants to do away with the distraction of having to worry about running a datacentre but is using one of the major cloud services cheaper than running your own? Amazon and Microsoft seem to be making healthy profits off their cloud services. That's part of your cost. Now it may be that even if more expensive, it is a better use of your capital (renting instead of owning so that you can…

You know Facebook, Apple, Microsoft, Google, etc and other major companies use CDN's like Akamai to deliver their content to users right? Building a few data centers may not be not be hard and may be cheaper, what's hard is serving content fast and as close to your users as possible in the world. For that how many data centers could you really build?!

Google runs its own CDN.

Re: Evernote’s transition to Google Cloud Platform

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Post by [deleted] »

aiiane wrote: post #92
jaypaulynice wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know Facebook, Apple, Microsoft, Google, etc and other major companies use CDN's like Akamai to deliver their content to users right? Building a few data centers may not be not be hard and may be cheaper, what's hard is serving content fast and as close to your users as possible in the world. For that how many data centers could you really build?!

Google runs its own CDN.

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Re: Evernote’s transition to Google Cloud Platform

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Post by jaypaulynice »

aiiane wrote: post #92
jaypaulynice wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know Facebook, Apple, Microsoft, Google, etc and other major companies use CDN's like Akamai to deliver their content to users right? Building a few data centers may not be not be hard and may be cheaper, what's hard is serving content fast and as close to your users as possible in the world. For that how many data centers could you really build?!

Google runs its own CDN.

I think Youtube is still using Akamai but not as much anymore and Google's CDN is in beta last I checked. Google partners with other major CDN's also.

https://www.quora.com/What-CDN-does-YouTube-use

https://cloud.google.com/interconnect/cdn-interconnect

Re: Evernote’s transition to Google Cloud Platform

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Post by therealmarv »

Kiro wrote: post #61

I would pay good money to Evernote if they had a "backup all my data multiple times, removing all possibilities of losing anything". I would gladly pay for Premium if that was an option.

You should look at CloudHQ. Their PDF backups to e.g. Google Drive preserve everything out of Evernote. Used it once to get away from Evernote while still preserving search of old stuff.

Re: Evernote’s transition to Google Cloud Platform

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Post by dang »

neotek wrote: post #42

That was a surprisingly frustrating article to read. It kept repeating the exact same things just worded slightly differently over and over again, like the four or five times it mentions machine learning being a major part of Evernote's decision to go with Google, without ever explaining what, exactly, that machine learning would be. The whole thing reads like a press release targeted at an audience that doesn't know…

Thanks. We changed the URL to that from http://www.pcworld.com/article/3167594/data-center-cloud/her....

Re: Evernote’s transition to Google Cloud Platform

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Post by ma2rten »

cm2187 wrote: post #16

I can understand that a company wants to do away with the distraction of having to worry about running a datacentre but is using one of the major cloud services cheaper than running your own? Amazon and Microsoft seem to be making healthy profits off their cloud services. That's part of your cost. Now it may be that even if more expensive, it is a better use of your capital (renting instead of owning so that you can…

Is using a catering service cheaper for a company than building your own kitchen and hiring a chef?

For what it's worth, Google's cafes are run by third party vendors. I am sure they make healthy profits as well.

Re: Evernote’s transition to Google Cloud Platform

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Post by hartator »

ma2rten wrote: post #98
cm2187 wrote: post #16

I can understand that a company wants to do away with the distraction of having to worry about running a datacentre but is using one of the major cloud services cheaper than running your own? Amazon and Microsoft seem to be making healthy profits off their cloud services. That's part of your cost. Now it may be that even if more expensive, it is a better use of your capital (renting instead of owning so that you can…

Is using a catering service cheaper for a company than building your own kitchen and hiring a chef? For what it's worth, Google's cafes are run by third party vendors. I am sure they make healthy profits as well.

Google core business is not food whereas Evernote's core one is indeed cloud storage.

Re: Evernote’s transition to Google Cloud Platform

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Post by diek »

quanticle wrote: post #4

Evernote’s engagement with Google engineers was a pleasant surprise to McCormack. The team was available 24/7 to handle Evernote’s concerns remotely, and Google also sent a team of its engineers over to Evernote’s facilities to help with the migration. Those Google employees were around to help troubleshoot any technical challenges Evernote was having with the move. That sort of engineer-to-engineer engagement is som…

I probably helps that the current CTO of Evernote used to work for a higher-up VP in Google Cloud for years when they were with Yahoo and GoDaddy.
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