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Shenzhen: The Silicon Valley of Hardware [video] (2016)

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Re: Shenzhen: The Silicon Valley of Hardware [video] (2016)

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Post by rubber_duck »

alanwells wrote: post #40
rubber_duck wrote: post #24

I don't know much about HW development but recently I wanted to play around with making a smart quadcopter to play with ML - so I'm looking in to what would be required on the hardware side. Devboards I see online with a high powered ARM board are in 150-200$ range for the devboard without camera/sensors and with stuff I don't need (network ports, display ports, etc). Then I look at my 150$ Chinese smartphone (Xaomi…

Check out the neo platform that comma.ai is building for self driving vehicles. It is meant for cars not drones but it might be a good starting point for you: https://github.com/commaai/neo

This is really cool and looks like it will have many resources for me thanks !

Re: Shenzhen: The Silicon Valley of Hardware [video] (2016)

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Post by Isamu »

elastic_church wrote: post #34

Nobody is going to call out the title? The fact that silicon valley is called SILICON VALLEY literally because of the hardware that was manufactured there, made of silicon? Oy vey

I came here to say exactly that.

There is still plenty of hardware work being done in sv, but maybe the manufacture is in China.

Re: Shenzhen: The Silicon Valley of Hardware [video] (2016)

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Post by Nokinside »

aaron-lebo wrote: post #39
Nokinside wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>they need some kind of permit to change jobs and sometimes they are actually forced to work somewhere. Your information is outdated. China is changing rapidly. Things that were true 20 years ago are not true anymore. It used to be that people had to be part of a work unit. In return people received free housing and were assigned a job. This is not true anymore. People can move around the country relatively freely, t…

What about hukou? In November 2005, Jiang Wenran, acting director of the China Institute at the University of Alberta, said that the hukou system was one of the most strictly enforced apartheid structures in modern world history.[56] He stated, 'Urban dwellers enjoy a range of social, economic and cultural benefits while peasants, the majority of the Chinese population, are treated as second-class citizens.'[56] Kam…

Hukou style register is common in Asia. Japan and Taiwan have it too.

Like I said, Chinese government still want's to prevent uncontrolled rural-urban population transfers and formation of slums. Undocumented immigrants in United States are analogous problem (citizens versus immigrants).

But the system has been radically changed. If person can show that they have work or house after six months they can stay and get their children in school etc.

Re: Shenzhen: The Silicon Valley of Hardware [video] (2016)

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Post by swiley »

rubber_duck wrote: post #24

I don't know much about HW development but recently I wanted to play around with making a smart quadcopter to play with ML - so I'm looking in to what would be required on the hardware side. Devboards I see online with a high powered ARM board are in 150-200$ range for the devboard without camera/sensors and with stuff I don't need (network ports, display ports, etc). Then I look at my 150$ Chinese smartphone (Xaomi…

But then you're going to be fighting with the crappy kernels from qualcomm. You're much better off avoiding them whenever possible.

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Post by utopcell »

rubber_duck wrote: post #24

I don't know much about HW development but recently I wanted to play around with making a smart quadcopter to play with ML - so I'm looking in to what would be required on the hardware side. Devboards I see online with a high powered ARM board are in 150-200$ range for the devboard without camera/sensors and with stuff I don't need (network ports, display ports, etc). Then I look at my 150$ Chinese smartphone (Xaomi…

I think you're better off getting a c.h.i.p. [1]. For $9 you get a 1ghz arm, wifi and some decent amount of ram and flash.

[1] getchip.com

Re: Shenzhen: The Silicon Valley of Hardware [video] (2016)

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Post by kitschshrine »

Nokinside wrote: post #17
aaron-lebo wrote: post #2

I find this fascinating and troubling. From a hacker perspective it is incredible. On the other hand, this is all driven by a profoundly illiberal government that has no goals other than its own survival and that's supported by a lot of human misery, some might say slavery. I love using Apple products but it's hard to forget the conditions at places like Foxconn. Both sides think they are outflanking the other - the…

>profoundly illiberal government that has no goals other than its own survival and that's supported by a lot of human misery, This is common misconception. China is authoritarian country but it's not a totalitarian dictatorship. Chinese government actually has problems of controlling it's population and people are not afraid to show their displeasure with protest and riots when things are wrong. Politically modern Ch…

The Chinese communist party (CCP) tortured its own citizens for 40 years. Then it stopped beating them and then rented them out to foreign corporations for pennies on the dollar, for hard, back-breaking labor. Then the CCP members left China with billions and escaped.

You seem to have a warped sense of morality

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