61–70 of 91 posts
For reference: in 2016, the Dutch police only investigated 157 cases out of 50,000 cases of internet fraud. So it's not like we don't have any criminals, the police just doesn't do shit about it.
Otherwise, 157 out of 50.000 cases of "internet fraud" might be just average.
Misleading article. I'm from the netherlands and a lot of police interviews report lack off financial support and manpower. Only criminals that get caught end up in jail.. Criminals who do not get caught are criminals nevertheless.. And they stil do criminal things. Correlation =/= Causation.
That's the same in every country.
The only interesting question is whether the netherlands have any higher crime rate, which I don't think is the case (compare to e.g. Britain).
If they don't arrest some guys doing some petty small stuff, it's no big deal.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Frankly, investigating internet fraud seems like a fool's errand in most cases. I wonder what's the closing rate for those that do get investigated; probably minuscule.
Often they're reporting including bank account details. There is lots of simple to investigate fraud. Meaning: Dutch person using their own Dutch bank account to defraud people. That should be super simple to investigate. On technical forums you sometimes see loads of people complaining that no action is being taken, despite pretty much giving police everything they need (all details: persons full name, bank account…
Not sure if it's truly hard to prove internet fraud, are understaffed or they just don't care enough. Anyway, seems like an easy way to make a quick buck or two for criminals. Even tho this person didn't look like a particularly intelligent individual or even a hardcore criminal, he got away with many scams and probably made quite a lot of money in a short period of time.
There are a couple reasons why there are so little people in jail in the Netherlands and not all are positive. Crime reporting rate has never been lower. People have very little confidence that reporting a crime will lead to the criminal getting caught or even convicted. Many crimes are not solved. The crime solve rate is about 2-3% which means out of that small number of actual reported crimes only a marginal amount…
There are a couple reasons why there are so little people in jail in the Netherlands and not all are positive. Crime reporting rate has never been lower. People have very little confidence that reporting a crime will lead to the criminal getting caught or even convicted. Many crimes are not solved. The crime solve rate is about 2-3% which means out of that small number of actual reported crimes only a marginal amount…
How do you call a crime solved if it doesn't result in a conviction?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
>>It's very common for judges to pass a community services punishment or an electronic ankle bracelet house arrest. But that's a good thing unless you consider sending people to the mines and keep them locked behind bars for years a better alternative.
That would depend on what they did and who they are, no? I hope nobody feels a nano-second sorry for a gang member, for example, but I would totally be willing to allow a kid who shoplifted to pay restitution and do community service/house arrest.
Sure, "community service" might be a poor way to rehabilitate a long-term gang member, and some more extensive process might be needed to re-introduce them to society. But I wouldn't take it as far as saying nobody should ever feel sorry for them or that justice should seek to punish them instead of rehabilitating them. In fact, it seems to me like a tracking bracelet would be quite reasonable at some point in this process, since it would make them a liability for other gang members and thus help keep them away from that environment.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> People have very little confidence that reporting a crime will lead to the criminal getting caught I thought that way too, but it's not all bad. I was recently positively surprised when the police actually investigated a bike theft that I reported (online) and caught and prosecuted the thief! Court session is next month, I'm going and will take my daughter (who's bike it was) there to learn...
Please reply to your comment and let us know what the outcome is, if you remember too.
Internal report of Dutch police / justice : there is probably 5 times more criminality as in the statistics. I have read here, sometime, from someone, crime statistics are based on a survey in the UK ( instead of relying on the police ).
i.e. 'have you been robbed in the last month or last year' etc.
For reference: in 2016, the Dutch police only investigated 157 cases out of 50,000 cases of internet fraud. So it's not like we don't have any criminals, the police just doesn't do shit about it.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
OTOH, the murder rate in 2015 was also the lowest in 20 years: http://nltimes.nl/2016/07/29/netherlands-murder-rate-20-year...
In loads of cases questionable deaths haven't been investigated on how they died. Meaning: lots of murders aren't being reported/seen as murder. Unfortunately do not have an article/reference for this, despite trying to find it.
Most murders are not of the sort where it's unclear if it was murder at all. Someone's stabbed, beaten, shot, etc.