The Netherlands Closes Prisons Because It Doesn't Have Enough Prisoners

Post by xxs » Mon, Feb 06, 2017, 4:48 PM UTC

pc86 wrote: post #21

xxs wrote: post #20

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>>It's very common for judges to pass a community services punishment or an electronic ankle bracelet house arrest. But that's a good thing unless you consider sending people to the mines and keep them locked behind bars for years a better alternative.

In the US at least, community service is typically only an option if: - It's your first offense - You more-or-less admit to the crime (not necessarily meaning you turned yourself in, but you didn't go through a trial while maintaining your innocence the whole time) - You are clearly remorseful - The crime is minor and non-violent - The odds are seen as low or very low that you'd do it again There are exceptions of co…

Post by Maarten88 » Mon, Feb 06, 2017, 4:51 PM UTC

Kaotique wrote: post #10

There are a couple reasons why there are so little people in jail in the Netherlands and not all are positive. Crime reporting rate has never been lower. People have very little confidence that reporting a crime will lead to the criminal getting caught or even convicted. Many crimes are not solved. The crime solve rate is about 2-3% which means out of that small number of actual reported crimes only a marginal amount…

Post by gspetr » Mon, Feb 06, 2017, 4:52 PM UTC

pc86 wrote: post #21

xxs wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>It's very common for judges to pass a community services punishment or an electronic ankle bracelet house arrest. But that's a good thing unless you consider sending people to the mines and keep them locked behind bars for years a better alternative.

In the US at least, community service is typically only an option if: - It's your first offense - You more-or-less admit to the crime (not necessarily meaning you turned yourself in, but you didn't go through a trial while maintaining your innocence the whole time) - You are clearly remorseful - The crime is minor and non-violent - The odds are seen as low or very low that you'd do it again There are exceptions of co…

Post by the-dude » Mon, Feb 06, 2017, 4:54 PM UTC

Post by rhapsodic » Mon, Feb 06, 2017, 4:57 PM UTC

Maarten88 wrote: post #24

Kaotique wrote: post #10

There are a couple reasons why there are so little people in jail in the Netherlands and not all are positive. Crime reporting rate has never been lower. People have very little confidence that reporting a crime will lead to the criminal getting caught or even convicted. Many crimes are not solved. The crime solve rate is about 2-3% which means out of that small number of actual reported crimes only a marginal amount…

> People have very little confidence that reporting a crime will lead to the criminal getting caught I thought that way too, but it's not all bad. I was recently positively surprised when the police actually investigated a bike theft that I reported (online) and caught and prosecuted the thief! Court session is next month, I'm going and will take my daughter (who's bike it was) there to learn...