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The woes of Windows 10

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Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by hadfgdasf »

computerex wrote: post #361
hfsktr wrote: post #201

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I think it's the best OS I've used yet really. I remember getting BSOD many times on Windows XP and several times on Win 7 (although they were so rare they were the exception). Almost always those previous iterations had some peripheral that needed help being configured but with Win 10 I haven't had to touch almost anything. My computer has changed to be not comparable to those previous though because I now have a ni…

Am I the only one who never had issues with BSOD's, outside of hardware malfunctions?

How old are you?

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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rwc wrote: post #24

> Chromebooks are now outselling MacBooks in the crucial education market, where long-term preferences tend to be established. Apple has historically held a dominant position in the education market, so how does one square the "long-term preferences tend to be established" portion of that sentence with the 8% marketshare MacOS commands?

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Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by grogenaut »

Nition wrote: post #302
scholia wrote: post #296

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There's a lot in the Control Panel. The more you move to the new Settings app, the more complicated Settings gets. And if Microsoft didn't provide all those settings, or dropped the whole Control Panel, there would be a tornado of criticism. Life is hard when you have 1.5 billion users, especially when a lot of them resist attempts to modernise or even update the system. Do it all at once, they'll complain bitterly.…

I'd understand that more if it was all esoteric power-user type stuff that was missing in the new system. But stuff like mouse pointer speed? Apparently Misrosoft has said that they do want to drop the old-style control panel eventually. I realise it's a huge job, but it feels very like a half-finished feature right now.

Mouse speed IS power user stuff. Poll the general populace, what percent actually know about mouse pointer speed or that you can adjust it.

back in 2002 I went around bumping everyone's screen resolution from vga in college because it hurt my sole. at least 20% of people got pissed at me for "fucking up their settings". Almost all eventually came back and said "I can't read my whole doc, show me that thing again."

Point being they didn't even know it was broke or that they could change it. Thus you have iOS where apple's defaults are the whole OS and literally millions upon millions of people are completely happy with it.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by romanovtexas »

hfsktr wrote: post #164

I must be in the huge minority. I haven't had a single issue with Windows 10 (if we disregard privacy). Literally everything has just worked. I will say thinking about it that my computer used for 99.99% gaming/internet/text documents. I keep anticipating that something is going to go horribly wrong but so far it's been great. I hate the menu and store that it shows so almost everything I tend to open has a shortcut…

Have had issues with the WiFi slowing down when the bluetooth is turned on in combination with location services; have ended up fixing it by toggling between turning off the bluetooth or the location services. The WiFi driver itself goes off randomly if I use my laptop for a long time.

The disk usage is incredibly high for atleast 10 minutes after startup; tried turning search on and off, cortana on and off, nothing works.

What's more annoying is the fact that there are no official troubleshooting guidelines for this issued by Microsoft. You end up visiting a bunch of sites and very randomly trying out myriad methods to get it working.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by reacharavindh »

arm wrote: post #378
douche wrote: post #355

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Find an ISO of the Long-Term Servicing Branch distribution - LTSB. It has all of the crap stripped out, and is quite fantastic. All the goodness, nothing that people complain about constantly with Win 10. No Edge, no Store, no Cortana, no ads or telemetry. I accidentally downloaded it from MSDN after my laptop's hard drive failed and I couldn't find any of my previously-burned DVDs or USB sticks.

“ No Edge, no Store, no Cortana, no ads or telemetry. ” Unfortunately, telemetry still can’t be turned off even in Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB. The lowest level you can pick is Security ¹². (Also, more info on Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB here³). ―――――― ¹ — https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/itpro/windows/manage/con... ² — https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12959097 ³ — http://www.howtogeek.com/273824/windows-10-with…

LTSB seems better Windows for my needs. Curious though, can't we just wire trace the telemetry connects and drop their name resolution some how? (Don't know the equivalent of /etc/hosts in Windows)

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by boznz »

jimmaswell wrote: post #292
boznz wrote: post #88

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I'm sure theres a hack but this is not possible in Windows 10 home.

Are you sure it doesn't let you just turn the service off in services.msc? I can't find any references online to the Home edition having that behavior.

Love to be corrected on this, but everything I have seen involves a registry hack

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by grogenaut »

E6300 wrote: post #370
Mithaldu wrote: post #230

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I'm a gamer and developer in high performance stuff. I've seen a concrete improvement in both average performance and responsiveness in going from win 7 to win 10 on the same machine.

That performance improvement happened in 8. 10 didn't bring anything new to the table in terms of optimizations.

being partially sarcastic: who could stand 8? as much as you hate the features you have to turn off... 8 was much much worse. 8.1 also really bad. 10 is like 7 that works way better. I also really like my work win10 where corp it has stripped all of the garbage for me, except that stupid "welcome" screen, which you used to be able to skip by task managering. Hello! I know windows is ready to go... I know you love your FTUE, did you think about your 92UE? :)

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by ygra »

computerex wrote: post #361
hfsktr wrote: post #201

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I think it's the best OS I've used yet really. I remember getting BSOD many times on Windows XP and several times on Win 7 (although they were so rare they were the exception). Almost always those previous iterations had some peripheral that needed help being configured but with Win 10 I haven't had to touch almost anything. My computer has changed to be not comparable to those previous though because I now have a ni…

Am I the only one who never had issues with BSOD's, outside of hardware malfunctions?

Driver malfunctions are common, too. Apart from that, I think my last Windows-induced BSOD was in Windows 2000, indeed. (And I don't think the blue screens in Win9x really count, as they are often a very different phenomenon than a kernel panic.)
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