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Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by computerex »

dcdevito wrote: post #215
Unbeliever69 wrote: post #57

I am a manager at a small architecture firm and Windows 10 has brought nothing but woe to my office. We have spent dozens of hours and thousands of dollars troubleshooting and fixing problems (many of which remain unresolved) that occurred as a result of this draconian forced upgrade (and updates that followed). So what if we got the upgrade for free. I've paid for it many times over in labor!

No offense mate, but if you're a manager at an architecture firm and you struggle with Windows upgrades and configuring the updates then perhaps you should find another profession, or hire better help. This stuff isn't rocket science.

Maybe he means civil architecture. Did you consider that, HMMM?

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by E6300 »

cheald wrote: post #359
daveguy wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Settings are easy to find Hah. You're lucky your Cortana bar still works. They aren't as easy to find when your Cortana bar disappears when you click it. Tried all the random fixes on the internet to no avail. I never even tried to fix privacy concerns -- it just broke.

I have Cortana turned completely off and settings are really easy to get to. Win key -> sett isn't particularly difficult. Or just typing in part of the setting usually finds it right away.

Maybe you're just lucky, or you're the sort of user MS is targeting with their new UI design. Whenever I'm configuring a W10 machine I find myself going back and forth between two completely different configuration interfaces. I.e. the Control Panel and the Settings app.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by computerex »

oldsj wrote: post #258
dcdevito wrote: post #214

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Sorry to hear that, Razer is utter garbage. Not to mention they have the WORST customer support on the planet. I'd sell it mate, ASAP. Seriously, not joking. Sell it and get an XPS

XPS hardware is probably better than Razer, but its not Apple level either though.

Honestly, I just wish I had an Apple level trackpad :/

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by computerex »

frik wrote: post #25

No wonder that Win10 fails like Win8 - Microsoft doesn't care about users, they only care about their shareholders. Win8 and Win10 looks like designed by color blind designers with a bad taste the brutalism of UI design plus the phone-home spyware features that cannot be deactivated. Windows 7 is too good and the perfect OS, if you don't install some recent spyware updates it will last at least until 2020 - and who k…

Not sure if serious or trolling.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by computerex »

ClassyJacket wrote: post #313
shmerl wrote: post #37

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> It gets a major update every year? Yeah, so where is OpenGL 4.5?

It was a bad decision to continue with Metal instead of updating OpenGL, but the operating system is not neglected. One example of a feature you personally want (that I do too) does not constitute neglect. It gets regular updates.

OpenGL is kind of.. big, it's not like they can support DirectX. Gaming is big, people want to use their expensive machines to play games.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by computerex »

tdkl wrote: post #261
bayeslives wrote: post #178

I've been using both Windows (work) and Linux (home) on the desktop for many years. I far prefer Linux (I tried many distros, settled on Arch and Mint now). Package management and window management is way better in Linux. To name just a few. To me, Windows10 is not better than Windows7. The package management is still a mess. Forced updates, no rollbacks, reboots, you name it. Permissions are also strange: why are ad…

>The package management is still a mess. If you mean for system updates I'd agree, but software package management is a shit show on Linux and it shows why less people bother writing software with & why Electron is popular there. What's more easier then clicking an .exe ?

Windows wasn't really designed with package management in mind. In the Unix/Linux world, there is the notion of the "unix way", and package management is central in facilitating this methodology. As a result, unix/linux world offers a software package management experience that's years ahead of what you can get with Windows (natively, Choco is pretty nice, the app selection has finally gotten non-trivial). Brew in OSX offers something pretty close.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by computerex »

cowardlydragon wrote: post #193
ZeroClickOk wrote: post #75

I dont know why name Windows 10 a fail, when the bigger competitors of Windows are... Windows! Mac and Linux mostly are used for niche users (as us). I'm really really happy we CAN upgrade for a new Windows version easily, just compare with Android. More: the reason to most people dont upgrade isn't why "Windows 7 is better than Windows 10", but the actual reason is they are comfortable with Win7 and dont want/can ta…

Android and iOS have probably surpassed windows in number of consumer installations. The PC will be invaded by Android at some point, and it will be like a blitzkreig when it happens. Google would make all their money back shortly off of appstore sales.

That's already happened, PC sales have already declined in favor of mobile years ago. And contrary to what people may think, appstore sales are also not really on the rise, and most users don't install any new apps in their phone monthly.

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by arm »

douche wrote: post #355
reacharavindh wrote: post #351

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Interesting. Is anyone aware of a set of hacks to get rid of selective annoyances/known privacy violations and turn Win 10 into something that feels like Win 7? - Cortana - Searches that connect to Internet/bing - call back to homeship - other features that not everyone wants that I haven't listed...

Find an ISO of the Long-Term Servicing Branch distribution - LTSB. It has all of the crap stripped out, and is quite fantastic. All the goodness, nothing that people complain about constantly with Win 10. No Edge, no Store, no Cortana, no ads or telemetry. I accidentally downloaded it from MSDN after my laptop's hard drive failed and I couldn't find any of my previously-burned DVDs or USB sticks.

“No Edge, no Store, no Cortana, no ads or telemetry.”

Unfortunately, telemetry still can’t be turned off even in Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB. The lowest level you can pick is Security¹².

(Also, more info on Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB here³).

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¹ — https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/itpro/windows/manage/con...

² — https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12959097

³ — http://www.howtogeek.com/273824/windows-10-without-the-cruft...

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by valine »

> There is no question that Windows 10 is an impressive piece of software, and quite the most secure operating system ever devised.

This is simply not true. Windows is in no way the most secure operating system ever devised. Microsoft has support pages devoted to removing malware from Windows 10, while there has never been a major malware outbreak on iOS. For the average user iOS is by far the most secure OS.

Now obviously a lot of iOS's security can be attributed to Apple's walled garden approach to apps. If you limit the question to desktop operating systems I supose it's slightly less cut and dry, but I'd still rank macOS significantly higher than windows in terms of overall security.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/instantanswers/eed4ec56-...

Re: The woes of Windows 10

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Post by boznz »

jjcm wrote: post #311
boznz wrote: post #83

Forget any other reason, for $150 a licence (NZ$199) my other computers will never ever see windows 10.. ever

Is $150 that crazy? The original prices for 7 were: Windows 7 Home Premium (Upgrade) $119.99 Windows 7 Home Premium (Full) $199.99 Windows 7 Family Pack (Upgrade, retail only) $149.99 Windows 7 Professional (Upgrade) $199.99 Windows 7 Professional (Full) $299.99 Windows 7 Ultimate (Upgrade) $219.99 Windows 7 Ultimate (Full) $319.99 $150 seems completely in line with pricing of previous windows versions.

Fine if that's their strategy, my argument still stands.
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