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Visual Studio Code 1.9

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Re: Visual Studio Code 1.9

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Post by pjmlp »

Joeri wrote: post #43
christophilus wrote: post #30

VSCode really does improve with each release, and the monthly cycle is just about the perfect pace. This is a great example of how to run an OSS project. I wonder how much Microsoft spends on it each month, and what value they see in it? Is it just a marketing expense? e.g. They fund VSCode in order to gain the good will of developers which they hope will turn into Azure or maybe Windows sales in the future?

VS Code is a web dev IDE. Microsoft has lost the mobile platform wars and pushing the web is a way of countering that. Plus, web and azure do go hand-in-hand, as you point out.

They lost the mobile phone, but I bet they will win the hybrid tablet/netbooks one, given how Android tablets disappeared from many consumer shops here in Germany, only to be replaced by Windows 10 ones.

Samsung and Asus ones seem to have been the surviving brands and even they have Win10 devices on their brand sections.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.9

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Post by joekrill »

majkinetor wrote: post #61
joekrill wrote: post #51

I keep trying VSCode, but the main thing that keeps me going back to Atom is the fact that I have to do everything at the command line or by editing an enormous json file. Maybe I'm spoiled, but I'd much rather have a nice UI to deal with settings than have to figure out that, say, in order to show line numbers I have to modify "editor.lineNumbers" and set it to "on" (or is it "true"? or 1? I can't remember... let me…

This is preciselly the reason I and many of my collegues love it - no GUI for settings. This means you can use hundreeds of tools to manage your settings and it is in true spirit of unix philosophy to keep everything as a text file. Much more time is wasted by looking for options in GUI equivalent and reproducibility, sharing, backup and comparing (diff) are way harder or nonexistent. Creating frontend for it is triv…

To your point, Atom allows both. Don't like the UI? Just edit config.cson or whatever directly! You're not locked into it.

I just find that if I have to go through a LOT more steps without a UI.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.9

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Post by vvanders »

arkitaip wrote: post #56
testUser69 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. Since VSCode came out there has been one gigantic circle jerk over it. It's "always" been better than sublime and atom, even though sublime and atom had been out for much longer. I've used a lot of text editors. VSCode really isn't miles ahead of the rest. As tech enthusiasts we all discuss new software regularly and we know none of us agree on one thing. According to stackoverflow, VSC is only used by 7.2% o…

I see you've brought that old school paranoid about Microsoft with you over to HN. Vim on Windows is a hilarious idea, though.

Ironically the Vim VSCode plugin is one of the better ones I've used short of Vim(the macro playback needs a bit of work but the rest is top-shelf).

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.9

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Post by joekrill »

mastax wrote: post #57
joekrill wrote: post #51

I keep trying VSCode, but the main thing that keeps me going back to Atom is the fact that I have to do everything at the command line or by editing an enormous json file. Maybe I'm spoiled, but I'd much rather have a nice UI to deal with settings than have to figure out that, say, in order to show line numbers I have to modify "editor.lineNumbers" and set it to "on" (or is it "true"? or 1? I can't remember... let me…

While I agree that a real settings menu could be an improvement, they have made the settings experience better. They show a searchable annotated list of all the default settings on the left, and when you type a setting key in on the right it will show suggestions for possible values. Looking at it just now, I also see that they added categories, and little edit buttons when you hover over a setting which allow you to…

Well that's good to know -- in that case I'll give it another shot.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.9

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Post by pjmlp »

AsyncAwait wrote: post #41

I am surprised at the amount of semi-negative comments here. Yes, some features are yet to be implemented, (it's still a fairly young project and you can always follow GitHub issues on progress), but for an Electron app, it's surprisingly fast and capable. The Microsoft-developed Go plugin makes it the best Go IDE out there, the devs, (Ramya Rao etc.) are super responsive and really trying to resolve issues quickly.…

How does it compare to LiteIDE?

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.9

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Post by titanix2 »

joekrill wrote: post #51

I keep trying VSCode, but the main thing that keeps me going back to Atom is the fact that I have to do everything at the command line or by editing an enormous json file. Maybe I'm spoiled, but I'd much rather have a nice UI to deal with settings than have to figure out that, say, in order to show line numbers I have to modify "editor.lineNumbers" and set it to "on" (or is it "true"? or 1? I can't remember... let me…

I share your opinion on the settings and command line. While I like it to loads faster than full fledged Visual Studio, in a year or so of using it on Mac OS I still doesn't use even 1% of its features because they are not _discoverable_ at all. Modifying or doing anything beyond text editing require googling. The same apply for using langages extensions beyond syntax coloring. Even Intellisense does not works as expected out of the box so I don't use it.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.9

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

ridiculous_fish wrote: post #60

I'm used to being able to run my program via command-R or some other key equivalent. I haven't been able to find a way to do this conveniently from VSCode. How do other VSCode users run their programs?

F5 is the default but you can set your own keyboard shortcuts from the File->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts menu

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.9

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Post by cube2222 »

arkitaip wrote: post #45
whyileft wrote: post #32

Or maybe you are part of VSCode's epic astroturfing campaign? Sorry, not saying you are but man MS is guerilla marketing VSCode like I've never seen in an opensource developer product.

I guess I am one of those astro turfers too because VS Code is probably one of the best editors for Windows right now.

I've once tried it on linux, it was even faster there!

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.9

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Post by dlbucci »

I was just thinking how much of a pain it was to switch from the output pane to the debug console, so I like the new tabs.

Unfortunately, I can't seem to run my launch task in my second window anymore...

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.9

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Post by freyir »

Analemma_ wrote: post #48
whyileft wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the only product on HN I've ever seen where "This is great!" is all over the place and never downvoted. Almost every single product on HN that makes it to the front page is full of flamewars and grumps. I should post the sentiment scores. Its a serious outlier.

Atom and Dolphin also get near-unanimous praise when they come up. It's not exclusive to VSC.

With Atom, there were usually many gripes about sluggishness. Maybe that's improved with recent updates.
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