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Re: Visual Studio Code 1.9

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Post by majkinetor »

joekrill wrote: post #51

I keep trying VSCode, but the main thing that keeps me going back to Atom is the fact that I have to do everything at the command line or by editing an enormous json file. Maybe I'm spoiled, but I'd much rather have a nice UI to deal with settings than have to figure out that, say, in order to show line numbers I have to modify "editor.lineNumbers" and set it to "on" (or is it "true"? or 1? I can't remember... let me…

This is preciselly the reason I and many of my collegues love it - no GUI for settings. This means you can use hundreeds of tools to manage your settings and it is in true spirit of unix philosophy to keep everything as a text file.

Much more time is wasted by looking for options in GUI equivalent and reproducibility, sharing, backup and comparing (diff) are way harder or nonexistent. Creating frontend for it is trivial, but honestly, why drop from horse to donkey as they say.

All the apps should have settings like that.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.9

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Post by PopsiclePete »

Joeri wrote: post #43
christophilus wrote: post #30

VSCode really does improve with each release, and the monthly cycle is just about the perfect pace. This is a great example of how to run an OSS project. I wonder how much Microsoft spends on it each month, and what value they see in it? Is it just a marketing expense? e.g. They fund VSCode in order to gain the good will of developers which they hope will turn into Azure or maybe Windows sales in the future?

VS Code is a web dev IDE. Microsoft has lost the mobile platform wars and pushing the web is a way of countering that. Plus, web and azure do go hand-in-hand, as you point out.

I use it full time for C, Go, Python, Ruby and NodeJS development. Works well with Rust as well. Nothing "web"-specific about it, really.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.9

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Post by atomi »

arkitaip wrote: post #56
testUser69 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. Since VSCode came out there has been one gigantic circle jerk over it. It's "always" been better than sublime and atom, even though sublime and atom had been out for much longer. I've used a lot of text editors. VSCode really isn't miles ahead of the rest. As tech enthusiasts we all discuss new software regularly and we know none of us agree on one thing. According to stackoverflow, VSC is only used by 7.2% o…

I see you've brought that old school paranoid about Microsoft with you over to HN. Vim on Windows is a hilarious idea, though.

Easy solution. Don't use windows.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.9

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Post by vvanders »

majkinetor wrote: post #61
joekrill wrote: post #51

I keep trying VSCode, but the main thing that keeps me going back to Atom is the fact that I have to do everything at the command line or by editing an enormous json file. Maybe I'm spoiled, but I'd much rather have a nice UI to deal with settings than have to figure out that, say, in order to show line numbers I have to modify "editor.lineNumbers" and set it to "on" (or is it "true"? or 1? I can't remember... let me…

This is preciselly the reason I and many of my collegues love it - no GUI for settings. This means you can use hundreeds of tools to manage your settings and it is in true spirit of unix philosophy to keep everything as a text file. Much more time is wasted by looking for options in GUI equivalent and reproducibility, sharing, backup and comparing (diff) are way harder or nonexistent. Creating frontend for it is triv…

Seriously, Ctrl+Shift+P and start typing gets me to what I need 99% of the time, it's glorious.

Combined with the VIM plugin and I rarely need to touch the mouse.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.9

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Post by WorldMaker »

christophilus wrote: post #30

VSCode really does improve with each release, and the monthly cycle is just about the perfect pace. This is a great example of how to run an OSS project. I wonder how much Microsoft spends on it each month, and what value they see in it? Is it just a marketing expense? e.g. They fund VSCode in order to gain the good will of developers which they hope will turn into Azure or maybe Windows sales in the future?

It's probably a complex set of factors including developer good will and competition in the marketplace (VSCode is obviously directly competing with Atom, for instance, which is also free).

One interest small piece of the larger puzzle is that the Monaco text editor at the heart of VSCode was originally built for Azure and Visual Studio Team Services cloud editing. It was then also subsequently embedded into IE's Dev Tools (and now Edge's Dev Tools). It's a neat example of building a tool for several existing needs embedded into existing products/projects and then finding that the same tool was also interesting as the core to its own product.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.9

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Post by untog »

whyileft wrote: post #40
microtonal wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have any proof that it is astroturfing and not just genuine enthusiasm? I am almost a lifelong vi user, but have been using Visual Studio Code last few months because it's Rust experience is smooth. (Though Emacs seems to do well as well.)

Just that the sentiment scores of comments blow everything else out of the water. Haven't done one in a month or two though.

So, to be clear, your evidence that there is a massive MS astroturfing campaign is that... people overwhelmingly post positive reviews of the product?

This type of thinking has infected everything and it baffles me. People are so unwilling to contemplate the fact that they are wrong that they'll jump through mile-wide mental hoops just to put the responsibility on someone else.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.9

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

k__ wrote: post #19
reynoldsbd wrote: post #14

Another great release! Maybe I'm just squarely within the target audience of VSCode, but I'm consistently impressed by how many of my pain points just magically go away with each new iteration.

I come from WebStorm, Sublime and Atom. Atom and WebStorm felt rather clunky. Sublime was super fast, but somehow lacked behind in new features. VSCode is a revelation for me :)

I miss the test runners from WebStorm, that hasn't been enough to stop me from switching to VSCode though.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.9

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Post by ridiculous_fish »

kzisme wrote: post #58
Joeri wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VS Code is a web dev IDE. Microsoft has lost the mobile platform wars and pushing the web is a way of countering that. Plus, web and azure do go hand-in-hand, as you point out.

I've never heard of VS Code referred to as a web dev IDE - what makes you say that?

Well, the Task Runner has preconfigured options for Grunt, Gulp, npm, maven, and TypeScript, but not make, ghc, cargo, etc.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.9

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Post by thiht »

Great release and awesome release notes, as always. Many thanks to the team for such a great editor!

I'm especially thrilled by the integrated terminal improvements.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.9

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Post by mastax »

yokohummer7 wrote: post #55
Tyriar wrote: post #20

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Hi, I worked on those improvements. Yes that is indeed what would happen when you ran a command with heaps of output, it would also lock up the UI while doing it. You probably haven't observed it much as you don't do recursive directory walk on a large directory ;) You can read more about the specifics if you're interested in https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/17875

Great, I didn't know the terminal portion if VS Code exists as a separate project. Was it made to fuel VS Code? Or did it already exist before launching VS Code? I also liked the name of the project, xterm.js. :)

Looks like xterm.js was started by Sourcelair, which looks like a Cloud IDE.
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