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Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker

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Re: Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker

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Skodas are quite popular in India

there aren't many cars in India compared to US or even some small European countries.

You are ignorant. http://apps.who.int/gho/data/node.main.A995

India 159m, USA 265m registered vehicles. India is the 6th largest producer of vehicles.

Re: Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker

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One thing learned from: Volkswagen,airbnb,google,amazon,uber,facebook is to CHEAT. Illegal hotels, copyright infringement, skipping sales tax, fake cabs,profiting on personal data.. and now, illegal emission testing.

That is how the world works. If you want to win, you have to be willing to do everything to get there. Not only for companies, but also in sport. Do you think the winners play fair?

You should really read the autobiography of Arnold Schwarzenegger, then you get an idea of what it takes to be able to win.

Re: Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker

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One thing learned from: Volkswagen,airbnb,google,amazon,uber,facebook is to CHEAT. Illegal hotels, copyright infringement, skipping sales tax, fake cabs,profiting on personal data.. and now, illegal emission testing.

Volkswagens cheating was a minor infraction, notable only for the $18B fine that was handed out by the US to throw some weight around, appease the domestic car industry and satisfy protectionist instincts.

Certainly it would be easy to fine Facebook, Google in Europe for privacy/monopoly violations (i.e. things that actually matter) with huge fines?

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>though I hope you're joking about the guillotine I read that remark as this: If corporations are people legally, there should be certain crimes that lead to their dissolution. I assumed this was the proposal: If a corporation does something evil enough, its leaders going to prison and paying a fine isn't enough, it should face the corporate guillotine which revokes its incorporation.

Right, but one of the issues is that a corporate "person" isn't the same as an individual person, and they don't overlap completely. They are only treated as persons under the law with regard to certain rights/obligations (sue and be sued, open a bank account, pay taxes, etc). But a corporation isn't a person for purposes of criminal culpability; i.e. you could never arrest a corporation for murder. Though corporatio…

In some jurisdictions (e.g. France) corporations can be subjected to criminal prosecution. The penalty can include forced dissolution of the enterprise.

Re: Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker

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> You dissolve the entity and sell the assests to pay back the costs of damage VW could pay the damages in its particular case without dissolution. What would you do with the extra money after liquidating its assets? It seems like you're simply arguing for even bigger fines.

Not the parent. If the company can pay for fines, fine. No need to dissolve them, but the leadership responsible still needs to face a judge. Just because you're part of a corporation, shouldn't mean you get to walk from crimes.

Kind of like this? https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/volkswagen-ag-agrees-plead-gu...

Re: Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker

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> violating the environmental laws of every western country. European nations aren't "western"?

These terms were coined before the Americas were discovered by Europeans. Europe was the West, then you have the Middle East, then the Far East (China, Japan). That was the whole world to them pretty much. When the Americas were discovered they were known as the New World, and eventually became known as the West as well (Due to the fact that most of our culture comes from Europe, eg. Western Culture).

Also the Near East, which was roughly the Ottoman Empire -- countries around the Mediterranean, Black and Red Seas. ("Mediterranean": middle of land.)

I suspect Rome (or some other city in Italy) is the centre of these terms, but I haven't looked for evidence of that.

Re: Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker

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The cheaper European brands like Skoda and SEAT also likely have significant volume. Skoda, for example, sold over a million vehicles—a non-trivial 10% of VW group's total. Audi sold something like 1.8M, probably with better margins than Skoda, so it's certainly a more important brand, but SEAT and Skoda aren't trivial either. Just in terms of car sales, SEAT + Skoda ≈ Audi.

Seat and skoda are only popular in handful of small European countries, vw is popular around the globe.

https://i.redditmedia.com/dMeUIv2q7ReJRwusmsvEO_n331WdcBEcIX...

Re: Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker

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Not the parent. If the company can pay for fines, fine. No need to dissolve them, but the leadership responsible still needs to face a judge. Just because you're part of a corporation, shouldn't mean you get to walk from crimes.

Kind of like this? https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/volkswagen-ag-agrees-plead-gu...

Just like that.

Re: Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker

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One thing learned from: Volkswagen,airbnb,google,amazon,uber,facebook is to CHEAT. Illegal hotels, copyright infringement, skipping sales tax, fake cabs,profiting on personal data.. and now, illegal emission testing.

That is how the world works. If you want to win, you have to be willing to do everything to get there. Not only for companies, but also in sport. Do you think the winners play fair? You should really read the autobiography of Arnold Schwarzenegger, then you get an idea of what it takes to be able to win.

I've not read Arnold's autobiography but out of interest what are you referring to? If you are talking about his use of steroids etc (which I'm assuming is covered in the book?) then that isn't really cheating since in the case of professional bodybuilding since the sport is untested. There are federations that test and in that case using PEDs is cheating but in an untested federation, it's considered fair game.

Obviously, there are legal implications around the use of PEDs since many substances are illegal however I'm separating that out for this purpose.

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