Trump’s Next Move on Immigration to Hit Closer to Home for Tech

Post by rocqua » Tue, Jan 31, 2017, 7:53 AM UTC

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As a European soon leaving university, and entering the job market, this makes working in the US more attractive. Before I'd written it off, as the competition for H1-B visas is fierce. However, with luck this change will be aimed exactly at people like me. This makes the high-wages and innovation of the US look much more appealing. There remains the downside of US politics in general and labor protection specificall…

Honestly I don't really think anything will change for you. You are still going to be struggling to find work without at least some experience. Unless of course you enter a graduate program which is seperate from the rest of the job market. Many companies are simply ill-equipped or unwilling to invest in training young developers. Especially in SV where the pace and intensity is so much higher.

Post by chu4n » Tue, Jan 31, 2017, 8:36 AM UTC

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People with H1Bs at Google and Facebook make far, far more than the average in the US (3x average salary, 1.5x average SWE salary).

As someone who worked for Google while on an H1B, I can attest to this. Also, the consulting firm that I worked through (not directly hired by Google) took a hearty cut of that.

Post by bottled_poe » Tue, Jan 31, 2017, 10:22 AM UTC

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There is no doubt that the software engineering discipline is plagued by passionless amateurs. I welcome the next dot-com collapse, as only those who love their craft will remain, while the rest chase the next gravy train.

>I welcome the next dot-com collapse, as only those who love their craft will remain No you don't. It's painful for the good ones too.

Post by UK-AL » Tue, Jan 31, 2017, 1:58 PM UTC

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Surely if companies are desperate for developers, there would be very few unemployed developers.

If local wages are high then it's possible for companies to be desperate for workers and for there to be high levels of unemployment. For example, if someone adds $50k to the company's bottom line then paying them more than $50k represents a loss. This is actually one of the tech industries biggest challenges - how do you drive the cost of products down to compete in the marketplace when producing software costs so m…

Post by 794CD01 » Tue, Jan 31, 2017, 2:52 PM UTC

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The movement of labor and ideas also means that there is no shortage of educated people to speak out against said orange demagogue's terrible policies. And most peoples' postmortems of the election agree that the election was close enough that higher immigration (or even better distribution of existing immigrants) would likely have kept him out of office.

> higher immigration (or even better distribution of existing immigrants) would likely have kept him out of office. Only importing immigrants who have political views that agree with yours? A country has a particular culture and set of views. Why would we want to import people from countries with inferior living conditions and follow the way they do things? There's a reason they left.