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Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by hueving »

kkhire wrote: post #44
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The sole point I'll argue in this thread is "so did Lyft". If you're boycotting all ridesharing apps in favour of licensed taxis, that's one thing. But deleting Uber and installing Lyft is misguided.

"I'm #deletingUber to show how anti-Trump I am!" uses Peter Thiel backed Lyft instead funny thing is, Trump supporters are now deleting Lyft in favor of uber. nobody does an ounce of research anymore.

>nobody does an ounce of research anymore

This is true of the vast majority of activists in any political cause. Most join as social signaling to their community that they are "one of them". Case in point, almost nobody interviewed for occupy Wallstreet could even agree on what the goal of the group was.

Particularly in this case, showing support is literally as simple as installing an app that does almost the exact same thing as another app. "sure, I'll do that and post to Facebook about it to show how forward thinking I am"

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Post by pfarnsworth »

timmyc wrote: post #57
wavefunction wrote: post #23

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So far we have no evidence that Uber attempted to take part in the strike but we do have evidence that Uber knew about the strike (temporary cessation of surge pricing) and didn't take part in it.

the timeline provided does not confirm this tho

lol it completely confirms it. The strike ended at 7pm, surge was lowered at 7:36pm.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by skyrw »

ntumlin wrote: post #79
xenadu02 wrote: post #67

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> funny thing is, Trump supporters are now deleting Lyft in favor of uber. Then it would appear there are far fewer Trump supporters than people who oppose Trump.

To be fair, many Trump supporters are in areas where ride sharing services aren't nearly as popular as the generally left-leaning cities.

Or they can afford private drivers

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Post by manigandham »

SomeStupidPoint wrote: post #216
manigandham wrote: post #66

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When has this strategy ever worked? This is not how you appease or bring about change.

When has appeasing ever worked as an instrument of social change?

Perhaps that was the wrong word. "To bring about peace" is the definition I was going for.

Either way, this is not going to solve anything.

Re: Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “DeleteUber” campaign

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Post by BuckRogers »

pfarnsworth wrote: post #215
BuckRogers wrote: post #212

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I don't really care who supports whom. If you vote Trump and use your company resources to feed the orphans then I'm going to patronize you anyway. Results, not intentions.

Assuming that you already know that Lyft also "broke the strike" in exactly the same way as Uber, Uber is paying for the earnings of Uber drivers trapped out of the US by the ban, and also set up a $3M legal fund to directly help any drivers that have troubles. How does that stack up vs the $250k/yr for 4 years that Lyft donated to ACLU?

You're right about that[0] but I'm holding Uber to the fire nonetheless to send a message. It's a positive one. The same link also has plenty of reasoning why Lyft > Uber. This will be a big lesson for everyone, Peter Thiel notwithstanding. Trump is bad for business and now Uber is going to take the hit.

[0]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2017/01/2...

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Post by baby »

rosser wrote: post #7
MaxLeiter wrote: post #2

Completely stolen from https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/5r2apd/lyft_sur... This is all a consequence of bad messaging on Uber's part here; they're not in the wrong. Uber's Surge system is all automatic--if demand goes way up, and supply doesn't follow suit, prices will increase in the app. Unfortunately, demand goes way up during catastrophes like terror attacks, so Uber has had a few bad instances where,…

I don't think the pricing is the extent of people's concerns, or even the majority. I'm not a fan of Kalanick, personally, but I was prepared to have been wrong about him when I saw his Facebook post about taking care of the drivers who were stranded by this idiocy. Then, I saw they were taking fares to JFK during the taxi strike — effectively breaking it. To my eyes, and those of many others, that is an ugly repudia…

what can Uber do? They can't update their app just for a strike. Apparently they could turn off a surge and that's what they did.

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Post by dajohnson89 »

rosser wrote: post #207
dajohnson89 wrote: post #190

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For clarity, it helps to realize that all parties involved are business entities which do whatever it takes to maximize profit. That is the main theme. There is no philosophical or moral consistency to be found. Don't look for something (is x or y pro or anti-z) which isn't there. Uber and Lyft are both for-profit enterprises answerable to pushy shareholders. They both have their hands dirty with Trump. They both kee…

I think that's a little reductive. Everything you say is true, but those "implementation details" aren't just implementation details. You say that like the actual implementation of a thing is immaterial. That's the meat of the thing; that's its substance. The stuff you're enumerating is more structural.

How substantive is it, in the grand scheme of things, whether Uber lifts its surge pricing at 7pm or 4pm or 1pm or never. That truly is an implementation detail. I am not hand waving or being reductive -- do you really think that that anything Lyft does to show its solidarity with immigrants holds any weight with Thiel being where he is?

There is no meat to the bandstanding outrage at Uber. It's all posturing. Boycott Uber for breaking the strike (sic) and also boycott Lyft for its Trump ties.

That's hard though, let's just boycott the black Uber brand. The pink moustache is kinda cool.

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Post by concinds »

SomeStupidPoint wrote: post #208
hueving wrote: post #168

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That is how a child would behave. You can't quit and ignore the person in charge. When have you ever heard the advice, "you get what you want by refusing to engage the only people who can do something about it?"

The person in charge is only in charge because we agree to it. Not agreeing -- and refusing to give them your influence -- is the only way bad leaders are ever removed.

That's preposterous, he's in charge for the next 4 years and nothing (even impeachment) will change that, since he'll just get replaced and his agenda continued. This "legitimacy" and "normalization" talk is just as post-factual as anything Trump ever said.

Is Bernie a fascist for saying he would work with the Trump admin on the good parts of his agenda?

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Post by mozumder »

hueving wrote: post #221
kkhire wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I'm #deletingUber to show how anti-Trump I am!" uses Peter Thiel backed Lyft instead funny thing is, Trump supporters are now deleting Lyft in favor of uber. nobody does an ounce of research anymore.

>nobody does an ounce of research anymore This is true of the vast majority of activists in any political cause. Most join as social signaling to their community that they are "one of them". Case in point, almost nobody interviewed for occupy Wallstreet could even agree on what the goal of the group was. Particularly in this case, showing support is literally as simple as installing an app that does almost the exact…

I'm curious how far we can go in terms of inducing economic anxiety. Are the people willing to go for a general strike?

How about a Hartal? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartal

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