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Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Lyft operates in Malaysia, where Israelis are banned from entering unless they get a letter of approval from the Ministry of Home Affairs, which is nearly impossible for the average Israeli. I'm curious if Lyft has any qualms about operating in Malaysia? I understand their disgust with Trump's action but I do hope they're consistent with their views.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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post #101

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Strikes are intended to disrupt. They are not entitled to disrupt. There is a huge difference.

In most professions, there's a feeling of unity. Taxi companies and drivers will either stand with striking drivers, or be respectful enough to not disrupt their action. Then comes Uber, the vulture that swoops in all in the name of disrupting the market. They're allowed to do it, sure. Whether it's morally right is another thing.

It is definitely morally right. Calling Uber a vulture ignores the reality that the world doesn't stop just because some protesters are unhappy.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Uber undermining the taxi strike [1] yesterday was pretty visible -- at least in my social circle here in Seattle -- and when Lyft made this announcement we all deleted our Uber accounts. Will that have a material impact on anyone's bottom line? Who knows, but I'd love to see the graphs for new account signups/account deletions. [1] Taxis were not servicing JFK in support of those who were being detained there.

I don't get it. How about other people that were not part of the protest and were trying to get home/get to the airport? How about the Uber drivers trying to make a living? Just because they were not part of your protest you'll give them hate?

>How about other people that were not part of the protest and were trying to get home/get to the airport?

Inconveniencing those sort of people is exactly the purpose of protesting. It's supposed to make regular everyday people who aren't directly affected by Trump's actions feel their impact. If you disagree with the protesters that's one thing, but complaining about it affecting "normal people" is really missing the point.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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post #103

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They are meeting their moral obligation.

What moral obligation?

To oppose those who would intentionally conceal and obscure objective fact from the public. The administration has publicly claimed a connection between these countries and the attacks of September 11th [1]. This is demonstrably false.

1: http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/text-of-trump-executi...

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Should the company decide on behalf of the workers whether they must join a strike? Shouldn't Uber drivers be the ones to make that decision?

Drivers are only allowed to turn down a limited number of rides before they are no longer allowed to be uber drivers for the day.

It was an one hour strike. Surely they could have driven far from the airport (to avoid getting tagged by the algorithm) for that time.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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post #108

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So protesters are entitled to hold people hostage for an arbitrary amount of time, just because they are unhappy? Give me a break.

Yes. You've realized the point of a strike. You may also notice that they usually don't happen too often because the goal is to make you realize that either their current situation isn't livable anymore, or because there's a message to be spread. Do it too often and people turn against the protesters. It lasted one hour. Get over it. Social change doesn't happen without inconvenience.

The people who need to get over it are the people who are angry at Uber for doing their jobs. I am doing just fine.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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post #2

Uber undermining the taxi strike [1] yesterday was pretty visible -- at least in my social circle here in Seattle -- and when Lyft made this announcement we all deleted our Uber accounts. Will that have a material impact on anyone's bottom line? Who knows, but I'd love to see the graphs for new account signups/account deletions. [1] Taxis were not servicing JFK in support of those who were being detained there.

So protesters are entitled to hold people hostage for an arbitrary amount of time, just because they are unhappy? Give me a break.

Where the bus services out of JFK also cancelled?

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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post #2

Uber undermining the taxi strike [1] yesterday was pretty visible -- at least in my social circle here in Seattle -- and when Lyft made this announcement we all deleted our Uber accounts. Will that have a material impact on anyone's bottom line? Who knows, but I'd love to see the graphs for new account signups/account deletions. [1] Taxis were not servicing JFK in support of those who were being detained there.

So protesters are entitled to hold people hostage for an arbitrary amount of time, just because they are unhappy? Give me a break.

When you have an administration whose stated goal is to tear the fabric of the country apart, don't be surprised when that is what happens.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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post #93

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This is a bizarre and inflammatory conspiracy theory in itself. A politician using an analytics firm that uses psychological profiling...welcome to the 20th century.

I agree, but I believe it is well-sourced.

My point is that corporations don't start product development for even a bar of candy without extensive market segmentation and psychological profiling. This is completely run of the mill stuff in this day and age, and you can be certain that every major party in the western world does the exact same thing.

OP is presenting it as if it's an unusual affront to democracy. It's extremely disingenuous or extremely ignorant, I'm not sure which.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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post #7

Donald Trump is being powered by conspiracy theorist Steve Bannon, the "Breitbart News" head and board member of Cambridge Analytica, an analytics firm that used psychological profiling to cynically exploit the American electorate. Despite his inexperience and stated desire to "blow things up", he was appointed to an influential national security position, over the Joint Chiefs of Staff [1]. This is an existential th…

"Bannon has been working on the long-term strategic vision that will shape the Trump administration’s overall foreign policy approach," Rogin reported, citing transition officials. He "is committed to working on the buildup of the military and is also interested in connecting the Trump apparatus to leaders of populist movements around the world, especially in Europe." [1]

I find this terrifying, that an untested extremist is the one in charge of our entire foreign policy approach, and that his goal is greater militarization and igniting populism. Not going to invoke Godwin's Law, but I think the parallels are obvious.

[1] http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-steve-bannon-national-s...

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