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Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Post by benchaney »

itsdrewmiller wrote: post #26
malloreon wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a bit confused by the backlash at Uber. I saw the tweet saying they were suspending surge pricing to JFK. To me that make trips there less likely since drivers would make less. Wouldn't that be a show of solidarity with the temporarily striking taxi drivers union? I guess my question is, how does suspending surge pricing to JFK suggest Uber supports the executive order?

A taxi strike is intended to inconvenience people. Uber reducing prices for riders directly contradicts that. (But if I had to guess, I would guess that they were just trying to avoid stories like "Uber profits from Muslim Ban", not making any kind of political statement about it.)

No it doesn't. Uber reducing prices means that less drivers will be available, making it harder to get a ride.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Post by facetube »

daveguy wrote: post #66
facetube wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm unclear on his exact relationship with "Breitbart News", but I relied on this for the "founder" statement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon#Breitbart_News .

The article wikipedia refers to states that Bannon was a board member from its foundation. That could be co-founder or just paid advisor or early investor.

Thanks, corrected in edit.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Post by closeparen »

benchaney wrote: post #58
Pfhreak wrote: post #2

Uber undermining the taxi strike [1] yesterday was pretty visible -- at least in my social circle here in Seattle -- and when Lyft made this announcement we all deleted our Uber accounts. Will that have a material impact on anyone's bottom line? Who knows, but I'd love to see the graphs for new account signups/account deletions. [1] Taxis were not servicing JFK in support of those who were being detained there.

So protesters are entitled to hold people hostage for an arbitrary amount of time, just because they are unhappy? Give me a break.

We could say the same about the government (in fact, the protesters were saying that).

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Post by danharaj »

benchaney wrote: post #58
Pfhreak wrote: post #2

Uber undermining the taxi strike [1] yesterday was pretty visible -- at least in my social circle here in Seattle -- and when Lyft made this announcement we all deleted our Uber accounts. Will that have a material impact on anyone's bottom line? Who knows, but I'd love to see the graphs for new account signups/account deletions. [1] Taxis were not servicing JFK in support of those who were being detained there.

So protesters are entitled to hold people hostage for an arbitrary amount of time, just because they are unhappy? Give me a break.

It doesn't matter if they're entitled or not, they did it, and then Uber did what they did, and people are now evaluating those actions based on the facts and their values. You don't have to agree with every protest. There isn't a universal rule that says all protest is good. But every protest can be judged on its merits, which is what people are doing, not reducing the motivations to "just because they are unhappy".

Implying that this protest was started "just because they are unhappy" is disingenuous and refuses to engage with the issues in good faith.

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Post by grzm »

facetube wrote: post #72
daveguy wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article wikipedia refers to states that Bannon was a board member from its foundation. That could be co-founder or just paid advisor or early investor.

Thanks, corrected in edit.

Just a suggestion, but you may want to include an "Edited" statement in the original comment, as this thread is a bit confusing to follow otherwise.

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Post by gotchange »

facetube wrote: post #50
colordrops wrote: post #37

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Please don't use the phrase "conspiracy theorist" as a term of disparagement or to indicate a particular bias. There are many that investigate conspiracies who have the opposite views of Bannon and are very skeptical and scientific. You are giving a tool to the unscrupulous to bury conversations by labeling their opponents "conspiracy theorists." Would you say Edward Snowden is in the same bucket at Bannon?

When someone casts peaceful protests against immigration policy at airports as "terror tied", I classify that as conspiratorial thinking [1]. I have no doubt a conspiracy is at work here, but IMO it is not of the type that Bannon espouses. 1: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/28/terror-ti...

They're referring to CAIR here and given Breitbart's journalistic integrity or the lack thereof, they went with that provocative headline to stir up their outrage-junkie audience.

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Post by icebraining »

stephancoral wrote: post #39
rashkov wrote: post #30

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How much money can they make during a 1 hour strike? Lowering their prices seems like the opposite of making money to me

A one hour strike at one of the busiest airports on the East Coast with NO taxis available? Probably a lot. The point is you hold a strike to STOP work, not work for less money. That's called scabbing and is the opposite of solidarity.

Should the company decide on behalf of the workers whether they must join a strike? Shouldn't Uber drivers be the ones to make that decision?

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Post by glup »

tptacek wrote: post #24
eganist wrote: post #17

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No country has an obligation to do business with the United States either. If we pull back, not only will our economy will suffer for it, but many people will lose their jobs as well as their lives.

In the future, just flag comments like these. Give them at least 20-30 minutes before dignifying them with a reply.

Seems like there's an uptick in new accounts today!
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