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Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Post by AnOscelot »

smpetrey wrote: post #42
colordrops wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't use the phrase "conspiracy theorist" as a term of disparagement or to indicate a particular bias. There are many that investigate conspiracies who have the opposite views of Bannon and are very skeptical and scientific. You are giving a tool to the unscrupulous to bury conversations by labeling their opponents "conspiracy theorists." Would you say Edward Snowden is in the same bucket at Bannon?

What phrase would be more effective in describing Bannon?

neo-nazi Leninist

The former term is how his detractors, including me, would describe him. The latter is a term he famously used for himself.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/22/steve-banno...

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Post by jasonbarone »

010a wrote: post #22
malloreon wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a bit confused by the backlash at Uber. I saw the tweet saying they were suspending surge pricing to JFK. To me that make trips there less likely since drivers would make less. Wouldn't that be a show of solidarity with the temporarily striking taxi drivers union? I guess my question is, how does suspending surge pricing to JFK suggest Uber supports the executive order?

They could have disabled all pickups at JFK in true solidarity. I don't think disabling surge pricing is a show of solidarity. With Taxis striking, surge pricing would have skyrocketed. This feels more like Uber just wants to preempt an inevitable news story about how surge pricing hit 10x or something during the taxi strike, which would be bad PR. The article did say that Uber is working with its affected drivers to…

Did Lyft or any other services disable all pickups at JFK in true solidarity?

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Post by blhack »

akuma73 wrote: post #47
staticassertion wrote: post #11

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You can easily see this as marketing. I'm certainly more inclined to use their services now.

What about the other half of the country?

Every Trump supporter I know is embarrassed by the travel ban. So this doesn't quite effect "half of the country".

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Post by skybrian »

kungfooguru wrote: post #29
inverse_pi wrote: post #18

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I don't get it. How about other people that were not part of the protest and were trying to get home/get to the airport? How about the Uber drivers trying to make a living? Just because they were not part of your protest you'll give them hate?

Yes, it undermines the strike. Strikes are supposed to disrupt.

Yes, but that doesn't necessarily mean every disruption on our side deserves our unconditional support. It's worth discussing whether disrupting travel further helps or hurts the cause.

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Post by [deleted] »

kungfooguru wrote: post #29
inverse_pi wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get it. How about other people that were not part of the protest and were trying to get home/get to the airport? How about the Uber drivers trying to make a living? Just because they were not part of your protest you'll give them hate?

Yes, it undermines the strike. Strikes are supposed to disrupt.

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Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Post by daveguy »

facetube wrote: post #27
stephancoral wrote: post #16

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Bannon is not a founder of Breitbart, but came on after Andrew Breitbart's death. But yes, he is a terrible danger to the states. This is like a bad movie.

I'm unclear on his exact relationship with "Breitbart News", but I relied on this for the "founder" statement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon#Breitbart_News .

The article wikipedia refers to states that Bannon was a board member from its foundation. That could be co-founder or just paid advisor or early investor.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Post by ajamesm »

smpetrey wrote: post #42
colordrops wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't use the phrase "conspiracy theorist" as a term of disparagement or to indicate a particular bias. There are many that investigate conspiracies who have the opposite views of Bannon and are very skeptical and scientific. You are giving a tool to the unscrupulous to bury conversations by labeling their opponents "conspiracy theorists." Would you say Edward Snowden is in the same bucket at Bannon?

What phrase would be more effective in describing Bannon?

Just 'conspirator'.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Post by gotchange »

colordrops wrote: post #37
facetube wrote: post #7

Donald Trump is being powered by conspiracy theorist Steve Bannon, the "Breitbart News" head and board member of Cambridge Analytica, an analytics firm that used psychological profiling to cynically exploit the American electorate. Despite his inexperience and stated desire to "blow things up", he was appointed to an influential national security position, over the Joint Chiefs of Staff [1]. This is an existential th…

Please don't use the phrase "conspiracy theorist" as a term of disparagement or to indicate a particular bias. There are many that investigate conspiracies who have the opposite views of Bannon and are very skeptical and scientific. You are giving a tool to the unscrupulous to bury conversations by labeling their opponents "conspiracy theorists." Would you say Edward Snowden is in the same bucket at Bannon?

It's a conspiracy theory till you produce sufficient evidence or proof for the claims in your theory to explain a particular event or development.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Post by gumby »

koolba wrote: post #6

Why is a company that is losing money and having what's left of their lunch taken by a gorilla of a competitor (Uber) throwing away $1M like this? If I were an investor in Lyft I'd sue them.

Deserved or not, Uber has (and perhaps even takes pride in) a reputation for being amoral and Ayn-Rand-inspired. And this is a topic which has a strong moral component. Lyft would have been fools not to capitalize on the moment.

(FWIW I think Uber deserves that reputation and I consider the strike a legitimate protest against an immoral action. But my statement above is dispassionate and should stand even if you have the completely opposite opinion on these issues)

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Post by cls59 »

inverse_pi wrote: post #18
Pfhreak wrote: post #2

Uber undermining the taxi strike [1] yesterday was pretty visible -- at least in my social circle here in Seattle -- and when Lyft made this announcement we all deleted our Uber accounts. Will that have a material impact on anyone's bottom line? Who knows, but I'd love to see the graphs for new account signups/account deletions. [1] Taxis were not servicing JFK in support of those who were being detained there.

I don't get it. How about other people that were not part of the protest and were trying to get home/get to the airport? How about the Uber drivers trying to make a living? Just because they were not part of your protest you'll give them hate?

I don't get it either. Given the status of Uber drivers as independent contractors, I'm not convinced it's Uber's place to call an action like a strike. Such a decision should come from the drivers. On the taxi side it sounds like there were unions who clearly have the representation to make this sort of decision.
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