Live data from Hacker News

Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

techcrunch.com

41–50 of 283 posts

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

#41
post #15
post #6

Why is a company that is losing money and having what's left of their lunch taken by a gorilla of a competitor (Uber) throwing away $1M like this? If I were an investor in Lyft I'd sue them.

$1M just got them the best PR campaign they could have hoped for.

Exactly; I've just installed the app now. I don't use Uber a ton, so it won't be a big hit, but I will certainly try Lyft first.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

#42
post #7

Donald Trump is being powered by conspiracy theorist Steve Bannon, the "Breitbart News" head and board member of Cambridge Analytica, an analytics firm that used psychological profiling to cynically exploit the American electorate. Despite his inexperience and stated desire to "blow things up", he was appointed to an influential national security position, over the Joint Chiefs of Staff [1]. This is an existential th…

Please don't use the phrase "conspiracy theorist" as a term of disparagement or to indicate a particular bias. There are many that investigate conspiracies who have the opposite views of Bannon and are very skeptical and scientific. You are giving a tool to the unscrupulous to bury conversations by labeling their opponents "conspiracy theorists." Would you say Edward Snowden is in the same bucket at Bannon?

What phrase would be more effective in describing Bannon?

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

#43
post #24
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No country has an obligation to do business with the United States either. If we pull back, not only will our economy will suffer for it, but many people will lose their jobs as well as their lives.

In the future, just flag comments like these. Give them at least 20-30 minutes before dignifying them with a reply.

[deleted]

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

#44
post #2

Uber undermining the taxi strike [1] yesterday was pretty visible -- at least in my social circle here in Seattle -- and when Lyft made this announcement we all deleted our Uber accounts. Will that have a material impact on anyone's bottom line? Who knows, but I'd love to see the graphs for new account signups/account deletions. [1] Taxis were not servicing JFK in support of those who were being detained there.

I don't get it. How about other people that were not part of the protest and were trying to get home/get to the airport? How about the Uber drivers trying to make a living? Just because they were not part of your protest you'll give them hate?

Everyone's trying to get on with their lives. However, everyone getting on with their lives crucially depends on other people doing their jobs. When a grave injustice is being committed the purpose of a strike is to say "we refuse to keep an unjust society running". A strike is an act of solidarity between people and the point specifically has to be to disrupt daily life. If a strike does not inconvenience anyone, then it isn't a strike.

By undermining the strike, Uber is saying that their profits are more important than the injustice being protested. They are saying that they are perfectly happy to help society function while it is committing such a grave act of injustice against a vulnerable minority. It is organizations and people like Uber who are perfectly willing to make money and let life go on as authoritarians destroy the lives of their fellow citizens that allow evil to persist and thrive. It is people who get on with their lives while those of their neighbors are being disrupted and destroyed that most threaten freedom.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get it. How about other people that were not part of the protest and were trying to get home/get to the airport? How about the Uber drivers trying to make a living? Just because they were not part of your protest you'll give them hate?

Yes, it undermines the strike. Strikes are supposed to disrupt.

[deleted]

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

#46
post #2

Uber undermining the taxi strike [1] yesterday was pretty visible -- at least in my social circle here in Seattle -- and when Lyft made this announcement we all deleted our Uber accounts. Will that have a material impact on anyone's bottom line? Who knows, but I'd love to see the graphs for new account signups/account deletions. [1] Taxis were not servicing JFK in support of those who were being detained there.

I don't get it. How about other people that were not part of the protest and were trying to get home/get to the airport? How about the Uber drivers trying to make a living? Just because they were not part of your protest you'll give them hate?

"Apologies for the inconvenience while we try to fix our country".

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

#47
post #6

Why is a company that is losing money and having what's left of their lunch taken by a gorilla of a competitor (Uber) throwing away $1M like this? If I were an investor in Lyft I'd sue them.

You can easily see this as marketing. I'm certainly more inclined to use their services now.

What about the other half of the country?

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get it. How about other people that were not part of the protest and were trying to get home/get to the airport? How about the Uber drivers trying to make a living? Just because they were not part of your protest you'll give them hate?

Yes, it undermines the strike. Strikes are supposed to disrupt.

Strikes are intended to disrupt. They are not entitled to disrupt. There is a huge difference.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

#49
post #2

Uber undermining the taxi strike [1] yesterday was pretty visible -- at least in my social circle here in Seattle -- and when Lyft made this announcement we all deleted our Uber accounts. Will that have a material impact on anyone's bottom line? Who knows, but I'd love to see the graphs for new account signups/account deletions. [1] Taxis were not servicing JFK in support of those who were being detained there.

I don't get it. How about other people that were not part of the protest and were trying to get home/get to the airport? How about the Uber drivers trying to make a living? Just because they were not part of your protest you'll give them hate?

A lot of people from Iran and other countries were also trying to get home that day. They couldn't call an Uber.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

#50
post #7

Donald Trump is being powered by conspiracy theorist Steve Bannon, the "Breitbart News" head and board member of Cambridge Analytica, an analytics firm that used psychological profiling to cynically exploit the American electorate. Despite his inexperience and stated desire to "blow things up", he was appointed to an influential national security position, over the Joint Chiefs of Staff [1]. This is an existential th…

Please don't use the phrase "conspiracy theorist" as a term of disparagement or to indicate a particular bias. There are many that investigate conspiracies who have the opposite views of Bannon and are very skeptical and scientific. You are giving a tool to the unscrupulous to bury conversations by labeling their opponents "conspiracy theorists." Would you say Edward Snowden is in the same bucket at Bannon?

When someone casts peaceful protests against immigration policy at airports as "terror tied", I classify that as conspiratorial thinking [1]. I have no doubt a conspiracy is at work here, but IMO it is not of the type that Bannon espouses.

1: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/28/terror-ti...

Post reply on HN