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Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Political shit like this should not be allowed here.

How is it overtly political to note that Lyft has donated $1m to the ACLU? If anything it is newsworthy. Glad you created an account just to share this with us.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

#52

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Please don't use the phrase "conspiracy theorist" as a term of disparagement or to indicate a particular bias. There are many that investigate conspiracies who have the opposite views of Bannon and are very skeptical and scientific. You are giving a tool to the unscrupulous to bury conversations by labeling their opponents "conspiracy theorists." Would you say Edward Snowden is in the same bucket at Bannon?

What phrase would be more effective in describing Bannon?

Perhaps, 'fear-mongering, bigotry-merchant'.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Uber undermining the taxi strike [1] yesterday was pretty visible -- at least in my social circle here in Seattle -- and when Lyft made this announcement we all deleted our Uber accounts. Will that have a material impact on anyone's bottom line? Who knows, but I'd love to see the graphs for new account signups/account deletions. [1] Taxis were not servicing JFK in support of those who were being detained there.

I don't get it. How about other people that were not part of the protest and were trying to get home/get to the airport? How about the Uber drivers trying to make a living? Just because they were not part of your protest you'll give them hate?

Question: during the Civil Rights movement, people of all sorts disrupted white people just trying to eat breakfast; just trying to get an education; just trying to get to work.

Is that "giving them hate"? Should MLK have made fastidiously sure to go to cordoned off areas where no one would have been inconvenienced in the slightest?

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't use the phrase "conspiracy theorist" as a term of disparagement or to indicate a particular bias. There are many that investigate conspiracies who have the opposite views of Bannon and are very skeptical and scientific. You are giving a tool to the unscrupulous to bury conversations by labeling their opponents "conspiracy theorists." Would you say Edward Snowden is in the same bucket at Bannon?

What phrase would be more effective in describing Bannon?

A far-right politician.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

#55

Political shit like this should not be allowed here.

I agree that 99% of the time we should keep it non-political on HN. This isn't a political forum. But certain times where fundamental values get challenged then it's okay to cross the line and stand up to say something. Columbia had a great statement about this:

https://twitter.com/nancysitu/status/825727645795155968

But I agree that it should only be done in the right time and place. Far too often people get hysterical these days and call anyone they disagree with Hitler every time they utter a sentence. Where when it gets to the point it really matters to stand up they become far less persuasive.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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For convenience, here's a link to the Lyft help page for deleting your account: https://help.lyft.com/hc/en-us/articles/223281567-Delete-My-... . Unforunately, it's not possible to do yourself. Both Lyft and Uber didn't suspend service to JFK last night because both are 24/7 platforms for anyone to drive and make money. Uber lowered/suspended surge pricing to make it affordable in/around the protests, while Lyft did…

could you post the account setup page please? i've never used lyft, i assume its basically the same service?

Doesn't operate in as many locations, but pretty much the same, and often the same drivers. Informally it appears drivers I've talked to have preferred Lyft (have asked even when they were driving for Uber). Most of course demur, but I've never heard a driver say something nice about Uber while I have had several praise Lyft.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Uber undermining the taxi strike [1] yesterday was pretty visible -- at least in my social circle here in Seattle -- and when Lyft made this announcement we all deleted our Uber accounts. Will that have a material impact on anyone's bottom line? Who knows, but I'd love to see the graphs for new account signups/account deletions. [1] Taxis were not servicing JFK in support of those who were being detained there.

So protesters are entitled to hold people hostage for an arbitrary amount of time, just because they are unhappy? Give me a break.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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You can easily see this as marketing. I'm certainly more inclined to use their services now.

What about the other half of the country?

Lyft and services like it seem to be intrinsically tied to urban centers, which also overwhelmingly lean liberal.

Re: Lyft donates $1M to the ACLU, condemns Trump’s immigration actions

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Uber undermining the taxi strike [1] yesterday was pretty visible -- at least in my social circle here in Seattle -- and when Lyft made this announcement we all deleted our Uber accounts. Will that have a material impact on anyone's bottom line? Who knows, but I'd love to see the graphs for new account signups/account deletions. [1] Taxis were not servicing JFK in support of those who were being detained there.

I'm a bit confused by the backlash at Uber. I saw the tweet saying they were suspending surge pricing to JFK. To me that make trips there less likely since drivers would make less. Wouldn't that be a show of solidarity with the temporarily striking taxi drivers union? I guess my question is, how does suspending surge pricing to JFK suggest Uber supports the executive order?

It doesn't matter whether Uber actually supported the executive order any more than Lyft did. The idea is out there that they did, well-connected people are loudly talking about how they deleted their Uber accounts and you should too, and going against that marks you out as an evil Trump supporter. Welcome to post-truth politics. Even other claims that're clearly and unambiguously untrue has been winning out over the truth if it fits the narrative better. (For example, as someone pointed out on HN the list of countries elsewhere in favour of explanations that are outright contradicted by it like Trump's business interests.)
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