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Re: Mac sales declined nearly 10% last year as Lenovo, Dell and others gained ground

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Post by CaptSpify »

feross wrote: post #64
jclardy wrote: post #10

Makes sense with Apple's current terrible product line setup. Both the retina MacBook and 2016 MacBook Pro are much more niche than their last generation. Also much more confusing as the MacBook Air successor is $500 more than the 13" Air was (The non-touchbar MacBook Pro is the spiritual successor to the air.) The true 13" Pro for 2016 is also $500 more than the last gen. The 12" MacBook is there...but it is a super…

"If you want to write fast software, use a slow computer" - Dominic Tarr The 12" Macbook is the best computer I've ever owned. Switched to it from a 2014 Macbook Pro, and found it very easy to adjust. The only time it struggles a little bit is when I run Windows in VMware, on occasion. The biggest benefit of the Macbook 12" is that if software runs well on your computer, you know it's guaranteed to run extra buttery-…

I used to work at a place that tested their apps on a ~7 year old computer with a I hate that I have to tell devs this, but: Yes, your data-hungry app may work well in downtown SF, but try using it in a place like nowheresville, TN, and let me know how well it works out. /me glares at google maps

Re: Mac sales declined nearly 10% last year as Lenovo, Dell and others gained ground

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

astrodust wrote: post #174
Joeri wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With apple's recent behavior, the updates may not be upgrades, but trade-offs.

I think they're having trouble finding their way in the post-PC world. Jobs knew this day was coming, that the PC would take a back seat to other devices, and brought up the analogy of Apple as BMW: The German company started out building motorcycles and while car sales soon vastly eclipsed that, they continued making really good bikes. It was a point of pride for them. If Apple goes back to that approach, of making…

It's not a post-PC world. It's a post-everyone-needs-a-PC world but definitely not a post-PC world.

Re: Mac sales declined nearly 10% last year as Lenovo, Dell and others gained ground

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Post by brightball »

Replaced my 2010 17" MacBookPro with an awesomr hulking 17" beast that is the Dell Precision 7710 and now happily running Fedora 25.

Zero regrets.

Biggest gotchas were learning that Apple mini display to DVI adapters were passive so I had to buy new active ones.

Re: Mac sales declined nearly 10% last year as Lenovo, Dell and others gained ground

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Post by rsync »

CoolGuySteve wrote: post #5

Back when I worked at Apple the dirty secret was that the cheapest models, despite all the marketing of the MacBook Pro, made up the majority of sales. Back then it was the white plastic MacBook but now it's the 11" MacBook Air that occupies that slot. That model and its crappy TN screen is vastly inferior and more expensive than similarly-sized ultrabooks. The only redeeming feature it has is MacOS. Instead of repla…

"That model and its crappy TN screen is vastly inferior and more expensive than similarly-sized ultrabooks. The only redeeming feature it has is MacOS."

Except it's made from a block of aluminum, has excellent build quality and will easily last 5+ years of day-in-day-out use.

All I wanted was an 11" MBA with a higher res screen.

They could have reused the exact same form factor and dies and tooling, etc. I would have happily upgraded to that.

Re: Mac sales declined nearly 10% last year as Lenovo, Dell and others gained ground

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Post by akulbe »

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If Apple doesn't care about their Mac line, why should their users?

I've been a hardcore Mac fan since '04. That said, it's VERY hard to argue that quality in both hardware and software haven't been declining.

I spent over $4K for the 2016 MBP w/Touchbar. Problems. Problems. Problems.

I'm 2 days in to completely switching back to Windows. I bought a Dell XPS 15" with a better CPU/GPU and more RAM than the top MBP, for a lot less money.

Dell makes a better "Macbook" in the new XPS line, than Apple's own Macbooks. It makes me sad. These days, it's hard to think that Apple cares about anything other than iOS devices.

Re: Mac sales declined nearly 10% last year as Lenovo, Dell and others gained ground

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Post by mciancia »

bootload wrote: post #193
xvaier wrote: post #181

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However, two out of four things mentioned have been removed from new models since the first retina came out in mid 2012 (DVD/RJ45) simply because they are nearly as thick as the entire device. RCA out hasn't ever been in a MacBook to my knowledge. The only port that made absolutely no sense to remove was the SD card slot (even if I personally never use mine).

"RCA out hasn't ever been in a MacBook to my knowledge." You're right, got confused with 3.5mm jack. Removed the 3.5mm jack. What about the current USB confusion? ...and yes mid 2012. Since when is a thiner laptop ever really been a TOP priority for programmers? I would have though it would be power: processor, battery life, HD, then weight, etc. For manufacturers shaving off millimetres/grams off each machine transl…

But 3.5mm jack is still present on all Apple computers

Re: Mac sales declined nearly 10% last year as Lenovo, Dell and others gained ground

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Post by flukus »

MereInterest wrote: post #156
feross wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"If you want to write fast software, use a slow computer" - Dominic Tarr The 12" Macbook is the best computer I've ever owned. Switched to it from a 2014 Macbook Pro, and found it very easy to adjust. The only time it struggles a little bit is when I run Windows in VMware, on occasion. The biggest benefit of the Macbook 12" is that if software runs well on your computer, you know it's guaranteed to run extra buttery-…

Always seems rather silly. By all means, test everything on a slow computer. Make sure that it runs smooth, even on older computers. But there's no reason to make your developers wait through unnecessarily long compile times before testing.

Not all developers have long compile times. If you're doing database work a slow computer on an HDD is a great way to notice performance problems early.

Re: Mac sales declined nearly 10% last year as Lenovo, Dell and others gained ground

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Post by ReverseCold »

sangnoir wrote: post #143
IshKebab wrote: post #41

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Yeah the problem is the "creatives use Macs" thing was really a holdover from when Macs actually were better than PCs at 'creative stuff'. A lot of creative software used to only run on Macs. Today everything runs everywhere and there's really no real reason for creatives to prefer Macs. Maybe the colour correction is better on Macs? I bet it works fine on Windows too really though. The truth is Apple didn't give up…

> The truth is Apple didn't give up on creatives; Microsoft just caught up. Sadly, that's not true: Final Cut Pro X was not just giving up, it was a big fat middle finger to all Video professionals and their workflows.

But to people who aren't "professionals" it's much easier to use.

"That's what iMovie is for!" - you

But using "Final Cut Pro X" is so much cooler! And you get to pay for it!

Re: Mac sales declined nearly 10% last year as Lenovo, Dell and others gained ground

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Post by swozey »

icebraining wrote: post #131
michaelbuckbee wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a good quote, but I feel it reflects a time when I didn't also need to run a stack of Redis, RabbitMQ, Postgres and webserver apps on my development box.

We run Gitlab (Rails + Unicorn + Sidekiq + Nginx + Postgres + Redis) on a 3GB single-core VPS and it runs fine, without needing the swap. Is the stack really the problem?

How many users on your Gitlab? I've had to add 2GB of ram every 3-6 months to my Gitlab server. We're at about 17 users and 300 projects right now. I think it's on a 4vcpu box right now.

Re: Mac sales declined nearly 10% last year as Lenovo, Dell and others gained ground

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Post by wyclif »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #56
bostand wrote: post #2

Given the CES announcements from Lenovo, Samsung and asus I can only assume 2017 will be even worse for Apple. Laptop with 25 hrs battery? Give me two please!

And yet no one but Apple can seem to make a decent track pad (even for windows). It's a show stopper for me whenever I think of moving back to a PC.

My wife has a brand new Lenovo ThinkPad w/ Windows 10, and the trackpad experience is so awful I can't imagine being forced to use it.
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