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What Chinese students go through to get into top American universities (2016)

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> Most people that age simply don't think big enough. I think really big, I believe. The problem is: I am not the kind of charismatic personality that is able to convince fellows to participate (friends would rather describe me as "brilliant scientist who tends to polarizes (in both positive and negative sense of the word) people"); so I am rather completely on my own - and the day only has 24 hours. :-( EDIT: And wh…

- Charisma is a useful thing. It can be developed. - If you haven't already, read more about Aaron Swartz. He was good or became good at persuasion. - If you are "on your own", then you might just be wrong-minded or maybe just a poor communicator. The scope of what is possible on a figurative island is really small (in most fields) compared to what can be done by a group/team. Persuasion, communication, and leadershi…

> If you are "on your own", then you might just be wrong-minded or maybe just a poor communicator.

I would not consider myself as not a poor communicator per se - people say my slide presentations are really great. It's rather that I really don't understand how other people work.

> Persuasion, communication, and leadership are high value-add skills. It might be prudent to learn about them and practice them.

I surely already read a lot more on this topic than most "good leaders" have. Of no avail (?). I try to convince people all the time to join my projects - of no avail.

People tell me the way to get better in leadership, communication, ... is tro practise more (IMHO a rather outlandish advice). I try it all the time - of no avail. I often cannot even imagine how other people think (and I am not able to reverse engineer based on their behavior what their inner thoughts might be). I typically have to go completely against my feelings and gut insticts when talking about or understanding feeling. But treating other people how I want to be treated is often a recipe for doom.

> I don't know what space you're working in, but there are almost always small neglected spaces in the sciences that will welcome a young no-name to do meaningful gruntwork that no grant-writing professional scientist can afford to do. Do this work, embrace it, and publish it. You will be loved.

I already do this in some sense (doing PhD on some very theoretical questions in some area of applied mathematics that few people on the world actually care about - still the questions are very exciting :-) ). The problem is that I have good reasons to believe that my days in science are numbered - and in the meantime I tend to believe that this might actually not be the worst thing, since how science is organized is IMHO broken in far too many ways and I believe I have found a potential secret emergency exit where I might work afterwards.

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You must be either rich or have a very frugal, possibly isolated lifestyle. Most people don't fit either of those categories.

I didn't say I don't have a job. I said I don't want one. It turns out that I don't want to be living rough on the streets to a greater degree than I don't want a job.

Then in that case your comment doesn't add much to the conversation, to be blunt. Most people love to do something and don't like jobs (in general, or just their jobs).

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Actually I think for transferring the "why us" essay is fine, mainly because you're transferring for some specific reason and the "why us" essay just allows you to reflect on that reason and whether the new university will truly be any better than the one you're switching out of.

Consider the opportunity cost involved in writing such an essay: The time you invest to write such an essay cannot be invested into much more important things.

This is actively the point of college admission essays, though. Especially for post-high-school applications, each student only has enough time to write and edit so many essays, so requiring college-specific essays keeps applications-per-student lower. That raises enrollment rates per acceptance, which helps colleges manage the size of their income class.

The Common App didn't save time for most students, it let them do more applications via the same number of essays. So yeah - those essays exist as a transaction cost to weed out the uncommitted.

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> Let's not pretend Chinese students are turned away because they lack individuality. They absolutely are. As someone who has been involved in this process, this is without question the biggest challenge for Chinese students to apply to top schools. They simply do not have the individuality and intellectual curiosity that US universities want. The reason is because having those qualities is totally incompatible with…

> The high scoring Chinese students were either never interested in critical thought What you call "critical thought" is what I would rather call "'critical' thought in what is the currently an opportune fashion". I know lots of people who have critical thoughts, but not in the sense of what admission panels like to see as "critical thought".

I mean they can't challenge an idea that is given, because they have no practice doing it. The students that challenge authority, even privately, don't have an easy time in that system.

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I didn't say I don't have a job. I said I don't want one. It turns out that I don't want to be living rough on the streets to a greater degree than I don't want a job.

Then in that case your comment doesn't add much to the conversation, to be blunt. Most people love to do something and don't like jobs (in general, or just their jobs).

Yet all I ever hear is how work is challenging and rewarding and people really look forwards to taking on new challenges and making a difference in the world of main street small hardware retail and how they find their job rewarding.
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