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Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

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Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And that right there is the sad part. People actually believe that line makes a news piece fair and objective. It's lazy journalism, especially given the headline. News flash: when asked about these kinds of things, it's very common for the police to decline to comment. The job of a reporter doesn't (or shouldn't) stop there. Sorry, you don't just get to say, "this side of the story was easy to write, so we wrote it;…

Well then, how would you report on it in a way that is appropriate? Just... don't tell anyone anything until March when we have more information? Come on, don't just complain. It's easy to complain! Everyone complains, all the time. It's totally non-constructive and achieves nothing. What's the right way of doing it, if this is the wrong way?

Just a few ideas off the top of my head (I'm sure there are a lot of other sources as well):

- Interview people who were there about what the journalists were actually doing and what happened when they were detained

- Mention the political background of the reporters and/or any history of participating in protests

- Explore legal precedents and ask experts to help explain why they may have been arrested

- At least mention the fact that if we don't know all the facts, we can't assume they were wrongfully charged

EDIT: If you disagree with my comments, please explain why you disagree rather than simply downvoting (ironically, downvoting for the sake of political disagreement only serves a purpose aligned with one-sided journalism - i.e., silencing opposing viewpoints in hopes of advancing one's own political ideology rather than promoting healthy dialogue). Thanks!

Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

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So this is what the NY Times know: - In a certain area, protest turned into riot - Cars were being set on fire - The police does a sweep, arresting 230 people - 6 of those 230 people were reporters And they chose to run a headline like this? They make it seem as if the journalists were targeted because of their profession, and that isn't what happened at all. What is this - Trump lies all the time, so as long as we a…

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/02/23/in-favor-of-niceness-co...

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Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

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A journalist has no more rights then any other citizen for a lot of obvious reasons. They should be treated with the same due process as any one else for a lot of obvious reasons. It's really time to end authoritarianism in the USA.

That is not how the news business is practiced. The assumption is that journalists are not participants and therefore are not prosecuted as such. Similar to a security guard standing near a protest.

Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

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So this is what the NY Times know: - In a certain area, protest turned into riot - Cars were being set on fire - The police does a sweep, arresting 230 people - 6 of those 230 people were reporters And they chose to run a headline like this? They make it seem as if the journalists were targeted because of their profession, and that isn't what happened at all. What is this - Trump lies all the time, so as long as we a…

You are the uninformed one here and making a false equivalency: you don't charge journalists with felonies when they are covering a riot. This is completely without precedent in recent history in the US. It violates the 1rst Amendment. This is extraordinary.

Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

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So this is what the NY Times know: - In a certain area, protest turned into riot - Cars were being set on fire - The police does a sweep, arresting 230 people - 6 of those 230 people were reporters And they chose to run a headline like this? They make it seem as if the journalists were targeted because of their profession, and that isn't what happened at all. What is this - Trump lies all the time, so as long as we a…

Furthermore, at least some of the journalists covering this (I'm admittedly not sure if they are the six that were charged) were engaging in gonzo journalism, rioting alongside non-journalist protesters.

Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

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So this is what the NY Times know: - In a certain area, protest turned into riot - Cars were being set on fire - The police does a sweep, arresting 230 people - 6 of those 230 people were reporters And they chose to run a headline like this? They make it seem as if the journalists were targeted because of their profession, and that isn't what happened at all. What is this - Trump lies all the time, so as long as we a…

What's notable is that the reporters are actually being charged after being identified as such. Even if they were caught in a sweep and arrested, the charges should have been dropped when it became clear that they were just covering the protest and not participating. That's how it normally works anyway.

Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

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This is significant because in order to collect the story, journalists have to stand next to people doing illegal things. Since the journalist wouldn't be there otherwise, and is not a participant, if they are mistakenly charged, then the charges are dropped. Pretty straight application of freedom of the press. This is significant and will impact coverage of many many protests if it carries thru.

>Since the journalist wouldn't be there otherwise, and is not a participant Do we know this is the case? Journalist and riot-participator are not mutually exclusive groups.

We know that the term journalist implies that mutual exclusivity. Accredited individual behaving badly will loose their accreditation very very quickly. This concern of blending activists and professional journalists is something the journalism community has been concerned with for years.

Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

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So this is what the NY Times know: - In a certain area, protest turned into riot - Cars were being set on fire - The police does a sweep, arresting 230 people - 6 of those 230 people were reporters And they chose to run a headline like this? They make it seem as if the journalists were targeted because of their profession, and that isn't what happened at all. What is this - Trump lies all the time, so as long as we a…

It does seem like there isn't any room for measured responses between the two extremes of the political spectrum. And the two extremes look a lot alike. Horseshoe theory is something I'm seeing more of all the time.

I'm libertarian, where do I fall? :) I was against expansion and abuse of power by the Obama administration, now I stand against Trump. The difference is one of degrees. In the current case we're facing a populist authoritarian.

I'm all for drastically reducing the size of government, but not at the expense of police brutality of People of Color, the expense of refugees fleeing war, the expense of Muslims (despite being Atheist myself!), by using torture, starting another war in Iraq and pillaging their petroleum, providing political cover for violent dictators like Vladimir Putin, on and on ...

Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

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So this is what the NY Times know: - In a certain area, protest turned into riot - Cars were being set on fire - The police does a sweep, arresting 230 people - 6 of those 230 people were reporters And they chose to run a headline like this? They make it seem as if the journalists were targeted because of their profession, and that isn't what happened at all. What is this - Trump lies all the time, so as long as we a…

>And they chose to run a headline like this? They make it seem as if the journalists were targeted because of their profession

Headlines can never tell the full story. They have to consist of a low number of characters. How would you change the headline to be more accurate?

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