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Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

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Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

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Were they charged under HR 347 (passed in 2012), considering the Secret Service was probably in the vicinity? Edit: Oops I meant 347, not 374. Summary: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr347/summary Full text: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr347/text ACLU: https://www.aclu.org/blog/how-big-deal-hr-347-criminalizing-...

The Life at Conception Act? Why would they be charged under that?

for making it this far

Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

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So this is what the NY Times know: - In a certain area, protest turned into riot - Cars were being set on fire - The police does a sweep, arresting 230 people - 6 of those 230 people were reporters And they chose to run a headline like this? They make it seem as if the journalists were targeted because of their profession, and that isn't what happened at all. What is this - Trump lies all the time, so as long as we a…

It does seem like there isn't any room for measured responses between the two extremes of the political spectrum. And the two extremes look a lot alike. Horseshoe theory is something I'm seeing more of all the time.

Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

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The NYT or the charged journalists never claimed that they were actually acting in a journalistic professional role during the riots.

"At least six journalists were charged with felony rioting after they were arrested while covering the violent protests that took place just blocks from President Trump’s inauguration parade in Washington on Friday, according to police reports and court documents." Literally the first sentence of the article.

Yea, and calling yourself a journalists means jack shit now days. I see no mention of a journalists from a reputable news source being charged. I mean just look up their profiles.."More gonzo than investigative", "This is why I'm an anarchist"...

Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. I read the article waiting to see the other side of the story, or a least some hints as to what possible justification there could be for the charges. When the other side of the story isn't even mentioned, I'm not sure it qualifies as journalism (even for an opinion piece, that's pretty lousy). It seems we've entered an era of mostly one-sided journalism - a.k.a. persuasive storytelling.

And it's this kind of reporting that fuels the need for 'alternate facts' because the facts presented so often leave a lot to be desired.

So because the police refused to comment on felony charges and imprisonment of journalists and citizens... no one can report on anything...

AND this apparently excuses the President's Press Secretary to spend his first press conference insisting on and threatening news outlets over grotesque lies about the size of a crowd?

Is this like a joke thread?

Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

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Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

#56
This is significant because in order to collect the story, journalists have to stand next to people doing illegal things. Since the journalist wouldn't be there otherwise, and is not a participant, if they are mistakenly charged, then the charges are dropped. Pretty straight application of freedom of the press. This is significant and will impact coverage of many many protests if it carries thru.

Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

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I have no sympathy Im afraid. People who cheer to rob certain section of society gets to feel the burn in turn. Karma is a bitch as the saying goes. I just hope lessons have been learnt. EDIT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-statism The people are the ones who gave their blessing and made state powerful because state promised to share the loot with them. If only people have resisted the temptation ...

How do you know the journalists were cheering?

Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

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This kind of reporting encourages people to form opinions before the facts are in. None of us know what really happened there, but it will probably get sorted out soon. By that time, it's too late because we've already jumped to a conclusion.

I was there. Protests were peaceful, until the cops started throwing grenades and arresting folks. I took some photos from a distance[1], and also posted a couple videos to twitter[2][3]. There was a heavy police presence on Friday (inauguration day), which was in stark contrast to Saturday (the Women's March), in which the police were noticeably absent. Not surprisingly, there was no violence during the Women's March because there were no police to antagonize people.

I remember watching a journalist who'd been pepper sprayed by police wash his eyes with bottled water, just outside the restaurant we'd stopped at for lunch.

We live in troubling times.

[1]: https://goo.gl/photos/GfrxTZV4sADJqtgH7

[2]: https://twitter.com/brndnmtthws/status/822520102973095936

[3]: https://twitter.com/brndnmtthws/status/822530371841622017

Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

#59

This kind of reporting encourages people to form opinions before the facts are in. None of us know what really happened there, but it will probably get sorted out soon. By that time, it's too late because we've already jumped to a conclusion.

The administration's extreme anti-press behaviour for the past week (and the months prior to that) contribute far more to those opinions. The "facts" are official sentences such as "we will hold the press accountable", "news media should keep its mouth shut", Spicer lying to the press on day 0 and treating the media as hate objects, etc...

These police are employed by the DC city government, which is run by Democrats.

Link to arrests of journalists which took place before Trump was president: https://www.google.com/search?q=dc+metro+police+arrest+journ...

While Trump's views on the First Amendment are disturbing, these arrests do not seem related.

Re: Felony Charges for 6 Reporters at Inauguration Protests

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post #56

This is significant because in order to collect the story, journalists have to stand next to people doing illegal things. Since the journalist wouldn't be there otherwise, and is not a participant, if they are mistakenly charged, then the charges are dropped. Pretty straight application of freedom of the press. This is significant and will impact coverage of many many protests if it carries thru.

>Since the journalist wouldn't be there otherwise, and is not a participant

Do we know this is the case? Journalist and riot-participator are not mutually exclusive groups.

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