still no WebRTC?
If it's not yet an official standard then don't count on it.
They have hired engineers to work on it so it is coming. Slowly.
Safari 10.1
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Re: Safari 10.1
#122“Reduced Motion Media Query” The extents to which Apple goes for people with disabilities is as baffling as it is commendable. I can’t think of another company in any industry that does so much.
Unless you're a blind user with a Touchbar Mac...
Re: Safari 10.1
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because Safari has consistently lagged behind Chrome and Firefox for functionality and standards compliance? And still does: http://caniuse.com
I don't think it is fair to discount battery life, memory usage, and performance so heavily. Looking at the http://caniuse.com list there are plenty of features supported by Safari and not supported by Chrome including Audio Tracks, Video Tracks, ES6 modules, SVG Fonts, Animated PNG, CSS regions. Safari is actually the first to 100% ES6 compliance; Chrome sits at 89%. I would also remind everyone that Google chose to…
>Google chose to fork Webkit to create Blink
Wasn't this because the amount of work required to co-operate with the WebKit project made it not worth it for Google?
Re: Safari 10.1
#124This confirms 2017 will be The Year of CSS Grid Layout.
Re: Safari 10.1
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think it is fair to discount battery life, memory usage, and performance so heavily. Looking at the http://caniuse.com list there are plenty of features supported by Safari and not supported by Chrome including Audio Tracks, Video Tracks, ES6 modules, SVG Fonts, Animated PNG, CSS regions. Safari is actually the first to 100% ES6 compliance; Chrome sits at 89%. I would also remind everyone that Google chose to…
>Google chose to fork Webkit to create Blink Wasn't this because the amount of work required to co-operate with the WebKit project made it not worth it for Google?
I find it more likely that Apple and Google's views on key topics (e.g. privacy/advertising) were diametrically opposed (not to mention Android vs iOS).
Note: Chrome exists for many OSs - Safari is only found on Apple ones.
Re: Safari 10.1
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think it is fair to discount battery life, memory usage, and performance so heavily. Looking at the http://caniuse.com list there are plenty of features supported by Safari and not supported by Chrome including Audio Tracks, Video Tracks, ES6 modules, SVG Fonts, Animated PNG, CSS regions. Safari is actually the first to 100% ES6 compliance; Chrome sits at 89%. I would also remind everyone that Google chose to…
That's only the newest version of Safari, before that it was pretty shit (on par with IE). Can't expect the mind share to change overnight, especially when it has lagged for years.
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Re: Safari 10.1
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
are you happy with the safari extensions?
I like that Safari supports content-blocking extensions that it guarantees can't read or transmit content from webpages. Makes me feel safer about running them, rather than relying on goodwill. I'm not sure if Chrome has a similar feature. I find Chrome trashes my battery, and for some reason will never quit reliably and requires force-quitting. I've also never figured out how to start Chrome with an empty blank scre…
I am very happy using wipr.safariextz over even uBlock Origin on FF. It just works.
I use Chrome only for a) google docs b) flash/pdf c) news sites that block me due to content-blocking.
Re: Safari 10.1
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think it is fair to discount battery life, memory usage, and performance so heavily. Looking at the http://caniuse.com list there are plenty of features supported by Safari and not supported by Chrome including Audio Tracks, Video Tracks, ES6 modules, SVG Fonts, Animated PNG, CSS regions. Safari is actually the first to 100% ES6 compliance; Chrome sits at 89%. I would also remind everyone that Google chose to…
That's only the newest version of Safari, before that it was pretty shit (on par with IE). Can't expect the mind share to change overnight, especially when it has lagged for years.
All the things xenadu02 mentioned have shipped in previous Safari releases. In some cases last year, in other cases weveral years ago.
Re: Safari 10.1
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have a lot of small extensions I use with Chrome, but that list's getting smaller everyday. The dev tools are not the same, but they're getting pretty close. My main gripe with Safari is that its release schedule is basically tied to OS releases. Ever since Chrome, I've come to love continuous releases. It's extremely satisfying to know that your browser will receive those important security updates quickly. With S…
You might want to consider the Safari Technology Preview. Updates every 2 weeks! https://webkit.org/downloads/ (Although, it has had some pretty major bugs. There was about a month where commenting on Github was broken, and currently JIRA doesn't even render.)
We try to prioritize bugs that block livability for STP. Do you know if there's a bug filed on the JIRA thing so I can get folks to follow up?
Re: Safari 10.1
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does this mean Safari is no longer the new IE? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9804533
I'm sure people will find other things to bitch about. It is made by Apple, after all.
Yeah, people always complain about anything. I can't believe people had the gall to complain about the hockey-puck mouse or MobileMe