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Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by dawnerd »

mmanfrin wrote: post #73
macrael wrote: post #50

Safari is a great browser and I'm sometimes surprised at how huge Chrome's mindshare among developers is. Every time I try Chrome out on my Mac I end up running screaming back to Safari. Safari doesn't choke on tons of tabs, it doesn't eat battery and memory for breakfast, it's never started autoplaying videos when I open a tab in the background, it's got support for picture in picture video which is my most used new…

Because Safari has consistently lagged behind Chrome and Firefox for functionality and standards compliance? And still does: http://caniuse.com

Chrome chrome dev tools still beats out Safari. If I'm going to use a browser to develop with I might as well use it all the time.

I would love to switch to safari full time though. The battery gains are pretty nice.

Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by cobralibre »

"When the pointer is locked, users will see a banner explaining that the mouse cursor is hidden, and that they can get out of pointer lock by pressing the Escape key."

I beg your pardon — which key?

Re: Safari 10.1

#83

Post by mahyarm »

macrael wrote: post #50

Safari is a great browser and I'm sometimes surprised at how huge Chrome's mindshare among developers is. Every time I try Chrome out on my Mac I end up running screaming back to Safari. Safari doesn't choke on tons of tabs, it doesn't eat battery and memory for breakfast, it's never started autoplaying videos when I open a tab in the background, it's got support for picture in picture video which is my most used new…

For me it's mostly a few minor UX things, such as not displaying favicons, or how it behaves with a lot of tabs.

Also it's extension ecosystem isn't that great. Stuff like ublock isn't in the official safari extensions page, so you have to go discover it yourself. I can't find a good right click to image search extension either.

Re: Safari 10.1

#84

Post by Geee »

> Updated Behavior of Fixed Position Elements

Wow, inputs in bootstrap modal will finally work on iOS!

Re: Safari 10.1

#85

Post by PakG1 »

macrael wrote: post #50

Safari is a great browser and I'm sometimes surprised at how huge Chrome's mindshare among developers is. Every time I try Chrome out on my Mac I end up running screaming back to Safari. Safari doesn't choke on tons of tabs, it doesn't eat battery and memory for breakfast, it's never started autoplaying videos when I open a tab in the background, it's got support for picture in picture video which is my most used new…

That's interesting. I ran from Safari to Chrome because Safari was choking on a ton of tabs for me.

Re: Safari 10.1

#87

Post by iand »

nkkollaw wrote: post #75
madeofpalk wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like that super readable Chrome tab bar when you have lots of tabs open? http://imgur.com/a/MZ2dI

There is no solution to that many tabs. Not getting it right with 5-6 open seems hard even if you try.

vertical tabs down the left side (with horizontal text)

Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by rtpg »

macrael wrote: post #50

Safari is a great browser and I'm sometimes surprised at how huge Chrome's mindshare among developers is. Every time I try Chrome out on my Mac I end up running screaming back to Safari. Safari doesn't choke on tons of tabs, it doesn't eat battery and memory for breakfast, it's never started autoplaying videos when I open a tab in the background, it's got support for picture in picture video which is my most used new…

I have a lot of small extensions I use with Chrome, but that list's getting smaller everyday. The dev tools are not the same, but they're getting pretty close.

My main gripe with Safari is that its release schedule is basically tied to OS releases. Ever since Chrome, I've come to love continuous releases. It's extremely satisfying to know that your browser will receive those important security updates quickly.

With Safari I have to deal with the App store nonsense (I still can't believe how bad that application is), waiting for stuff because Apple wants major releases to happen with their busted OS releases (your OS is free now! Please do rolling releases).

And I'm not a fan of Apple's positioning for web apps compared to Google or Mozilla. I like fancy new features!

The OS integration is, of course, better. Looks nice to use. And I think Chrome halves my battery life at this point. I should give it a shot again.

Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by GolDDranks »

Hmm, still no support for MediaStream Recording or Media Capture APIs. That's unfortunate as I'm currently developing a web app that makes use of microphone input. I'm a Safari user myself, but I'm forced to direct my users to use Chrome or Firefox to be able to use the microphone utilizing features.

Re: Safari 10.1

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Post by bfred_it »

bionsuba wrote: post #17
arrakeen wrote: post #14

still no WebRTC?

If it's not yet an official standard then don't count on it.

That doesn't really matter, they pushed CSS Transforms, Transitions and Animations long before they were "standards", hence the slew of prefixed properties still enabled on many browsers.

It's more about politics and priorities.

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