Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does this mean Safari is no longer the new IE? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9804533
Safari is the new IE only if you think Apple is the new Microsoft. A dubious analogy that works if you squint really hard.
Safari 10.1
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Re: Safari 10.1
#62Safari is a great browser and I'm sometimes surprised at how huge Chrome's mindshare among developers is. Every time I try Chrome out on my Mac I end up running screaming back to Safari. Safari doesn't choke on tons of tabs, it doesn't eat battery and memory for breakfast, it's never started autoplaying videos when I open a tab in the background, it's got support for picture in picture video which is my most used new…
Also, I can't browse without Vimium.
Re: Safari 10.1
#63Re: Safari 10.1
#64Whew. Custom Elements, Fetch, and async/await all at once? Christmas came real early in 2017...
Does this mean Safari is no longer the new IE? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9804533
Microsoft took 5 years to go from IE6 to IE7, and 7 was really bad. IE completely stagnated, while being the default browser on a billion PC's. Then they were very slow to adopt HTML 5 features. Developers were supporting IE6 over 10 years after it was released. I doubt if many people are supporting 5 year old versions of Safari, let alone 10 year old versions.
Re: Safari 10.1
#65Safari is a great browser and I'm sometimes surprised at how huge Chrome's mindshare among developers is. Every time I try Chrome out on my Mac I end up running screaming back to Safari. Safari doesn't choke on tons of tabs, it doesn't eat battery and memory for breakfast, it's never started autoplaying videos when I open a tab in the background, it's got support for picture in picture video which is my most used new…
are you happy with the safari extensions?
I find Chrome trashes my battery, and for some reason will never quit reliably and requires force-quitting. I've also never figured out how to start Chrome with an empty blank screen, which I feel should be simple enough...
However, I do still use Chrome sometimes because some websites simply work better with it and it has integrated Flash support (which means I don't need to install Flash globally in my system).
Re: Safari 10.1
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does this mean Safari is no longer the new IE? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9804533
Safari was never the new IE. Microsoft took 5 years to go from IE6 to IE7, and 7 was really bad. IE completely stagnated, while being the default browser on a billion PC's. Then they were very slow to adopt HTML 5 features. Developers were supporting IE6 over 10 years after it was released. I doubt if many people are supporting 5 year old versions of Safari, let alone 10 year old versions.
I feel like many people have forgotten how bad this really was, or simply weren't developing back then ...
Re: Safari 10.1
#67Safari is a great browser and I'm sometimes surprised at how huge Chrome's mindshare among developers is. Every time I try Chrome out on my Mac I end up running screaming back to Safari. Safari doesn't choke on tons of tabs, it doesn't eat battery and memory for breakfast, it's never started autoplaying videos when I open a tab in the background, it's got support for picture in picture video which is my most used new…
I enjoy Safari and use it for general browsing. However, as a developer, I perceive their developer program to be unfriendly with a high barrier to entry. That may be acceptable in a closed ecosystem like iOS but unacceptable in an ecosystem like the general web.
Re: Safari 10.1
#68Safari is a great browser and I'm sometimes surprised at how huge Chrome's mindshare among developers is. Every time I try Chrome out on my Mac I end up running screaming back to Safari. Safari doesn't choke on tons of tabs, it doesn't eat battery and memory for breakfast, it's never started autoplaying videos when I open a tab in the background, it's got support for picture in picture video which is my most used new…
Developers love Chrome because its Devtools are second to none.
Re: Safari 10.1
#69Whew. Custom Elements, Fetch, and async/await all at once? Christmas came real early in 2017...
Does this mean Safari is no longer the new IE? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9804533
So far they're third going by the caniuse score, which is based on the features developers can use. Previously it last place.
I don't think it was the developer backlash that forced Apple to start releasing TP previews of Safari and progressing features. I was likely more of a gap between major versions (Safari 9.x vs 10.x)
Re: Safari 10.1
#70Safari is a great browser and I'm sometimes surprised at how huge Chrome's mindshare among developers is. Every time I try Chrome out on my Mac I end up running screaming back to Safari. Safari doesn't choke on tons of tabs, it doesn't eat battery and memory for breakfast, it's never started autoplaying videos when I open a tab in the background, it's got support for picture in picture video which is my most used new…