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Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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Post by asdfasdfa11112 »

Spooky23 wrote: post #208
sparky_z wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, presumably they're reselling these tickets on behalf of the theaters which get the bulk of the revenue. It's possible Fandango takes no margin on the tickets sales and just makes money on the ads.

They take a fixed fee per ticket. It's a good model. Like most ticketing operations, they've built a niche monopoly. If you want to buy tickets online, they are usually the only game in town. If the obnoxious ads annoy you, their attitude is basically "fuck you, drive to the mall and miss your movie".

This is called a "moat". Build it for your company, it's a good thing for an entrepreneur.

To be significantly successful, you need to stop thinking this way. Start thinking about what benefits you & your company.

It may seem like contempt for the consumer, and perhaps it is. But it's also possible the consumer is irrational and you can benefit in the short and long term.

I work in marketing, and have seen scant evidence for the value of a "brand". It's mostly branding people making an argument that comic sans devalues our brand, whereas the data clearly shows it doesn't.

The "long term harm" argument is indistinguishable from "i know better than you and I want it this way." It may be true, but it's unprovable.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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Post by dang »

st3v3r wrote: post #144

Again, why? Why are you so against people getting paid for their work?

This crosses into incivility, which breaks the site guidelines. Please don't do that.

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Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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Post by dang »

st3v3r wrote: post #22

Because fuck people who are trying to get paid for their work? I mean, we can't all work 100% for free all the time like you must do. EDIT: I guess people who downvote also don't get paid for their work, and don't feel anyone else should?

You repeatedly crossed into incivility in this thread. You also broke the HN guidelines by going on about downvoting. Please don't do these things.

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Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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Post by nuclear_eclipse »

dawnerd wrote: post #93
lozaning wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Milk is kept at the back of the store because that's the easiest please to put it from a logistics stand point. The truck the milk comes in pulls up to the back of the store and can immediately unload it into the giant refrigerated rooms at the back of the store. The fact that it helps "build the basket" by being at the back is a happy coincidence for the store.

Every Target I've been to has the milk before just about every other grocery item. Strangely enough, the seasonal stuff is tucked away in a corner. Then again, I guess if you're going to target for milk you're probably doing it wrong...

Definitely down to personal preference, but the milk at our Target is generally in better condition, tastes better, and lasts longer than the milk from Safeway. And the shopping experience in general is much nicer than Safeway.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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Post by GrinningFool »

_delirium wrote: post #50
Animats wrote: post #47

What's really stupid are sites from which you can buy things, but then pop up an ad for something else. Fandango, which sells movie tickets, does this. As you're trying to get to the "buy ticket" page, they shove movie trailers for other movies in your face. I mentioned a site earlier today which sold plumbing supplies.[1] They pop up a "gimme your email" box which 1) cannot be dismissed , and 2) isn't even theirs, i…

Pop-ups asking me to please take a survey about the user experience of the website, too. Well, I was trying to actually buy something on your website, before your goddamn survey pop-up got in the way.

I don't understand why sites don't make this a simple checkbox on the checkout page.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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Post by witty_username »

edblarney wrote: post #223
Analemma_ wrote: post #168

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Here's the thing: I don't care. I don't care if Google's algorithm makes life difficult for SEOs. I don't care if it prioritizes Google's own properties unfairly. I don't care if it hurts somebody's conversion rate. All I care about is the quality of my browsing experience, which takes a nosedive every time one of these fullscreen mobile ads shows up. As long as Google's algorithm ranks results roughly in the order o…

" I don't care if it hurts somebody's conversion rate. All I care about is the quality of my browsing experience" In the short run, it won't matter, but in the long run, it may likely affect your browsing experience on the whole. Google doesn't do anything well but search. So you are trading a slightly better search experience - which may cost you the death of several brands that provide much more than search outcome…

But it's very easy to switch to another search engine. I used DuckDuckGo for some days. It's literally 10 seconds to change it.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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Post by chii »

rukuu001 wrote: post #231
Analemma_ wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's the thing: I don't care. I don't care if Google's algorithm makes life difficult for SEOs. I don't care if it prioritizes Google's own properties unfairly. I don't care if it hurts somebody's conversion rate. All I care about is the quality of my browsing experience, which takes a nosedive every time one of these fullscreen mobile ads shows up. As long as Google's algorithm ranks results roughly in the order o…

> Here's the thing: I don't care. You will care when nobody's in the business of providing hotel/restaurant/etc reviews...except Google.

If google does a good eough job, then may be i will continue not to care?

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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Post by _eht »

asdfasdfa11112 wrote: post #241
Spooky23 wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They take a fixed fee per ticket. It's a good model. Like most ticketing operations, they've built a niche monopoly. If you want to buy tickets online, they are usually the only game in town. If the obnoxious ads annoy you, their attitude is basically "fuck you, drive to the mall and miss your movie".

This is called a "moat". Build it for your company, it's a good thing for an entrepreneur. To be significantly successful, you need to stop thinking this way. Start thinking about what benefits you & your company. It may seem like contempt for the consumer, and perhaps it is. But it's also possible the consumer is irrational and you can benefit in the short and long term. I work in marketing, and have seen scant evid…

This actually makes a lot of sense.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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Post by balls187 »

RestlessMind wrote: post #238
edblarney wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

" I don't care if it hurts somebody's conversion rate. All I care about is the quality of my browsing experience" In the short run, it won't matter, but in the long run, it may likely affect your browsing experience on the whole. Google doesn't do anything well but search. So you are trading a slightly better search experience - which may cost you the death of several brands that provide much more than search outcome…

> Google doesn't do anything well but search. I beg to differ. Google also provides great products for - Maps, Email, Browser, Mobile OS, Video, Photo management. If you think neither of those are great and you can think of a better alternative, you have a lot of market share to capture. Having said that, I concur with the rest of your sentiment and would like to see services like TripAdvisor, Kayak etc flourish. Dis…

Google Cloud is also pretty great, but suffered from AWS's First Mover advantage.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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Post by balls187 »

witty_username wrote: post #246
edblarney wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

" I don't care if it hurts somebody's conversion rate. All I care about is the quality of my browsing experience" In the short run, it won't matter, but in the long run, it may likely affect your browsing experience on the whole. Google doesn't do anything well but search. So you are trading a slightly better search experience - which may cost you the death of several brands that provide much more than search outcome…

But it's very easy to switch to another search engine. I used DuckDuckGo for some days. It's literally 10 seconds to change it.

As an engineer, I have found no other search engine better for programming related issues than Google. I've tried Bing, and DDG (which is my default on my work browser), and neither have performed as well as Google.
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