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Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by toyg »

DangerousPie wrote: post #16

One of the comments there makes a good point - they should really register `moz://` as a protocol, otherwise someone will grab that at some point and cause endless confusion. On the other hand, "we used this for branding" is really not a great justification for registering a new protocol, is it...

They registered it. That doesn't mean other browsers will implement it. In fact, if I were on Chrome or IE, I'd make sure "moz://a" either redirects to my own feature-page or leave it as it is (i.e. google search leading to shady SEO business moz.com).

Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by toyg »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #151
bisby wrote: post #87

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You dont remember when people got confused and always called Mozilla 'red dinosaur head' because the logo was confusing?

This isn't a logo, it's a stylised name, they serve different purposes. Consider Indesit, they style their name but have a useful logo that can stand alone. Mozilla could do with an actual logo, something that fits with the Thunderbird & Firefox logos. Edit: Having looked at the other designs I think they chose correctly, but perhaps needed a "none of the above" option. This https://blog.mozilla.org/opendesign/now-fo…

> This isn't a logo, it's a stylised name

Pretty much all the material about the redesign says this is, in fact, a logo.

I agree that the whole process was a complete clusterfuck. They picked the less atrocious suggestion. It's still terrible.

Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by toyg »

slig wrote: post #83
mtgx wrote: post #31

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You don't think at the very least older people will see Moz://a and try to type that into the browser's address bar? Also, Moz.com should expect a huge increase in its revenues soon. I imagine they already have the celebration party planned for the weekend.

> Also, Moz.com should expect a huge increase in its revenues soon. How so? People "savvy" enough to type "moz://a" on a search bar aren't the same type of people interested in the services of a SEO company.

The opposite might well be true: people believing seo is a real thing tend to be the unsavvy ones.

Moz.com should throw a party.

Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by toyg »

gkya wrote: post #77
FeepingCreature wrote: post #39

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No, the issue is the new logo is "moz://a", so when people don't get that it's supposed to mean "mozilla" they'll type it in as "moz://a".

If they're seeing Mozilla logo somewhere, they're either on the Mozilla website or a webpage regarding Mozilla or a product thereof, so all this discussion is in vain and is a parody of itself. Also, WRT indexing, the logo is an image, not text, so the search engines will either not index it or index it like they index other images, using filename and maybe embedded metadata.

> they're either on the Mozilla website or a webpage

or they've seen a sticker on a laptop. Or they've seen a t-shirt, or skimmed a magazine article. And they're now googling it, and ending up on moz.com.

It feels just like a scene from Silicon Valley.

Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by sohkamyung »

nekopa wrote: post #111
wott wrote: post #67

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> No, because people aren't complete idiots. Sweet summer child. http://www.gentside.com/le-bon-coin/le-bon-coin-un-ordinateu... http://i.imgur.com/4nMqG8C.png http://www.jofogas.hu/veszprem/Sony_mio_laptop_elado_6040346... http://archiwum.allegro.pl/oferta/sony-mio-pcg-6e1m-laptop-o... https://www.olx.in/item/sony-wio-laptop-ID19koWZ.html

This is still my favorite: http://imgur.com/gallery/BZ9fPe1

Hah! That's a good one.

BTW, for context, I think that conversation took place in Singapore. "Challenger" is the name of a chain of computer megastores here. "Simi" is local slang for "What's up."

Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by nekopa »

sohkamyung wrote: post #165
nekopa wrote: post #111

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This is still my favorite: http://imgur.com/gallery/BZ9fPe1

Hah! That's a good one. BTW, for context, I think that conversation took place in Singapore. "Challenger" is the name of a chain of computer megastores here. "Simi" is local slang for "What's up."

Hey, thanks for the context. I had wondered what Simi meant.

Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by mrkgnao »

subjectsigma wrote: post #135
toxican wrote: post #42

While I don't like the branding move at all, I think the concern that people will start calling them moz-colon-forward-slash-forwadslash-a is a little ridiculous. Is Sony's line of laptops Analog Wave One Zero? Is Verizon Verizoncheckmark? Is Johnson & Johnson Johnson ampersand Johnson? Is Comcast CComcast? No, because people aren't complete idiots. Those that are going to know/care about Mozilla will be able to tell…

Oftentimes when reading something with a lot of symbols in it, I just remove the symbols and pronounce it as if the name were a sentence. Quick example: writing emacs lisp, I see 'global-set-key' and think "Global set key", as if someone were reading it out. Thus the new name isn't moz-colon-forward-slash-forwadslash-a, which would be ridiculous, but 'Mozza', which is much more plausible but equally detrimental, eg t…

In case it helps now: K:// is supposed to be "kill".

Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by sohkamyung »

nekopa wrote: post #166
sohkamyung wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hah! That's a good one. BTW, for context, I think that conversation took place in Singapore. "Challenger" is the name of a chain of computer megastores here. "Simi" is local slang for "What's up."

Hey, thanks for the context. I had wondered what Simi meant.

No problem. For reference, here's what Wikipedia [1] says:

"Si Mi - Hokkien - "What?" - From Hokkien term 甚物 (sím-mi̍h) (may also be written as 啥物 or 啥咪). Mandarin equivalent of 什么.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singlish_vocabulary

Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

#170

Post by gkya »

toyg wrote: post #164
gkya wrote: post #77

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If they're seeing Mozilla logo somewhere, they're either on the Mozilla website or a webpage regarding Mozilla or a product thereof, so all this discussion is in vain and is a parody of itself. Also, WRT indexing, the logo is an image, not text, so the search engines will either not index it or index it like they index other images, using filename and maybe embedded metadata.

> they're either on the Mozilla website or a webpage or they've seen a sticker on a laptop. Or they've seen a t-shirt, or skimmed a magazine article. And they're now googling it, and ending up on moz.com. It feels just like a scene from Silicon Valley.

A proper needle in a haystack situation here.
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