additional ideas for google:
- penalty for non no-js fallback
Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads
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Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
A paywall is a pop up ad, and worse than most, in that you can't dismiss it. Google would argue that visitors coming via search aren't paywalled, but often that isn't true. Some give you 3 free views, for example, then cut you off. To me, if you want a paywall, that's fine...But then your content shouldn't show up on search engines, or perhaps if it does, it should be clearly marked as such.
Why shouldn't people be able to get paid for their work? No one is forcing you to pay them; it's just the same as anything else has been: If you want the product of someone's labor, you pay them what they ask for.
Where did anyone say that they can't get paid for their work?
Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads
#163Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads
#164For me, the most annoying thing while browsing on mobile is the vibration ads/fake alarms. It's horrible. I haven't even seen a single good use of this vibration API, as it is only ever used for things like "Your phone haz virus click here now". Why isn't there an option to disable it in Chrome is beyond me.
Why does this API even exist? I thought the "Security and privacy considerations" section [1] was a good example of how hostile the Modern Web has become, but anyone who thought that allowing web pages to vibrate your phone was a good idea was either malicious or oblivious.
Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads
#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're assuming they make money on ticket sales. Maybe all that money goes to the theater? If so, the ads are completely rational.
Then it becomes rational for the user to buy tickets elsewhere.
I really don't see how. What are the alternatives you envision? Switching to a more expensive service that doesn't show ads but charges a markup? Physically waiting in line at the box office?
Sadly, if "give it away for free and make money from advertising" is the dominant business model in an industry, it's very hard to disrupt. That's precisely because there aren't really any sustainable incentives for users to switch to a different model.
Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads
#166Why only "mobile websites"? I hate em just as much when I'm viewing on the desktop.
Relatively it seems mobile ads cover way more area than when on desktop.
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#167Because fuck people who are trying to get paid for their work? I mean, we can't all work 100% for free all the time like you must do. EDIT: I guess people who downvote also don't get paid for their work, and don't feel anyone else should?
You keep arguing that people "should be paid for their work", but I've yet to see someone say that they shouldn't be.
Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads
#168Most users hate these pop-ups and cheer this move from Google. But let me add a little context to why these ads are so prevalent and why some companies view this move as Google abusing their power. If you visit to any "guide" website like TripAdviser, Yelp, etc, these days on a mobile browser, you'll notice that the sites often barely let you do anything without downloading the native app. They all but refuse to let…
Here's the thing: I don't care. I don't care if Google's algorithm makes life difficult for SEOs. I don't care if it prioritizes Google's own properties unfairly. I don't care if it hurts somebody's conversion rate.
All I care about is the quality of my browsing experience, which takes a nosedive every time one of these fullscreen mobile ads shows up. As long as Google's algorithm ranks results roughly in the order of how useful and pleasant they are to me - even if that's just a side-effect of their own self-interested intentions - I'm OK. In general I'm not a big fan of egoist philosophy, but in this case, all I care about is me, me, me. Google should keep doing what they're doing.
It might be dictatorial, but the web has so few incentives to not load your website down with a ratchet of ever-increasing invasive crap, that any incentive pushing in the opposite direction is good, and Google is one of the only agents with the might to make that happen.
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#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then it becomes rational for the user to buy tickets elsewhere.
I really don't see how. What are the alternatives you envision? Switching to a more expensive service that doesn't show ads but charges a markup? Physically waiting in line at the box office? Sadly, if "give it away for free and make money from advertising" is the dominant business model in an industry, it's very hard to disrupt. That's precisely because there aren't really any sustainable incentives for users to swi…
How much do they make per add shown? Is it more than a price difference users would care about, say 50c?
If one experience is awful and one is pleasant but 50c more then most aren't going to notice the difference.
Not to mention the effects on the advertiser, being disrupted from what I'm doing to see your ad makes me not want to see your movie.
For theatre's over reliance on advertising has already turned a lot of people away. We've all made and heard complaints about 20 minutes of advertising before a movie starts. The only thing they've got going for them anymore is timed exclusivity.
Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads
#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you using an adblocker?
Do ad blockers break AMP pages? If so that is a pretty crafty way of killing them. "Would you like to search and browse the mobile web through Google? Only if you disable your ad blocker." I'd be shocked if they don't try to force AMP on the desktop as well next if this works out for them.
I have 1Blocker on an iPhone with the default lists turned on, and AMP pages load fine for me.